British National Healthcare System holds top spot in worldwide healthcare survey

From the Guardian (July, 2017) here: NHS holds on to top spot in healthcare survey

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And, if you'd like to know just how much different is the cost per capita of America's privatized health-care system, have a gander here:

 

And why are the costs-per-capita (individuals) so different between Canada and the US.

The one major reason is the cost of manpower (Doctors, Nurses, etc.) A GP in the US earns $200K a year (from the Bureau of Labor Statistics - see here). Canada's total cost of healthcare (per capita) is about half that of the US. And yet, its doctors are paid about the same amount per year as in the US. (See here.)

Why is Canada's overall cost per capita (per person) half that of the US given the fact that all its practitioners, unlike the US, work for a National Healthcare Service that sets remunerations in the same manner as exists in Europe ... ?

NB: Note that if a Canadian doctor is earning $220 (Canadian dollars), then his Income in the US is (today) $176K (US dollars).

And my answer, I suggest, lies in the fact that HealthCare in the US is a boondoggle for the Insurance Companies ...

Had we allowed Hillary, when she actually went to Canada to study their Health Care system in her husband's administration, to enact her proposed Health Care plan (read about it here), we'd have TODAY a Nationwide Healthcare System that costs half as much.

More stoopid than that, one dies ...

 

Just google NHS debt.

Just google London Hospital trust deficit.

Just google OECD report on NHS healthcare.


Sooner than later the chickens come home to roost with the taxpayer holding the bag.....

 

I've done the googling. The facts are as I present them. Now you dispute that factual evidence! Particularly this one: Our per Total HC Per-capita Cost is double that of most other countries for a life-span that is 3 years less than that of Europe:

Open your eyes here:



Your comment is oh-so typical one-line sarcasm from someone who dares not share in the "debate exchange".

You'd be happier elsewhere ...

 

B-B-But it is against their ideology for leftists to even CONTEMPLATE the concept that eventually their schemes run out of other people's money. They are natural pyramid schemers/scammers.

 

Hey, go on with your bad self and enslave your children in debt. None of my business what the UK does.

No worries, be happy.

 

I have "no worries"!

I live in France, with a higher life-expectation than you do; largely because I have a decent National HealthCare System.

Which you don't, btw ...

 

You are hallucinating.

There's this place across the Atlantic Ocean called the European Union. It has more than twice as many people as you are in the US. And all those 735 million individuals have a decent National Health Care system, which you don't.

The first National Healthcare System (NHS) started in the 1950s in the UK. Since then, all the other countries dumped privatized Health Care and chose to establish NHSs throughout Europe.

You'd apparently be better off on a Message Board, rather than a debate forum. Look up the word "debate" ...

 

TG for the American edition of the UK Guardian to get the truth about government healthcare.

"Women fearful of 'war zone' treatment have babies alone, Pregnant women face lack of privacy and staff shortages in hospitals", Gaby Hinsliff, chief political correspondent, Sunday July 20, 2003 The Observer,

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/nhs/story/0,1480,1001894,00.html

 

Socialists give high marks to socialism. What a surprise!

 

You are probably not aware that life expectancy is not measured the same in each country. For instance in the US where we are very advanced in premature births but because of that we have more premature deaths which are recorded as a death but not in other countries.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nati...t-mortality-deceptive-statistic-scott-w-atlas

 

you need to live longer, gotta pay those taxes. Only the good die young?

 

You will have to do better than that to put the infographic in question - besides it is not about infant mortality but lifespan ...

 

Infant mortality is included in avg lifespan calculation.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.livescience.com/10569-human-lifespans-constant-2-000-years.html

 

Psssst . . . which nation guarantees their freedom by the mere existence of their massive military might? The United States does. We PAY for the E.U.s freedom so that they can afford to be socialistic. Were we to stop guaranteeing their sovereignty then they'd either have to have REAL and really EXPENSIVE military forces of their own or . . . learn to speak Russian or Chinese or perhaps nowadays . . . Arabic. Read a history book.

 

So you can't just debate the fact of the issue. You HAVE TO attack leftists as your main thrust on it. I guess you don't know anything about the subject.

 

And what is your national debt as a percentage of GDP?

 

AMERICAN DREAMWORLD

What guaranty of Freedom? You believe the BS that Fox News is feeding you? Who the hell WANTS to take over the US anyway? Nobody!

And as for the "guaranty", you seem to have forgot 9/11.

Jerko commentary from someone who knows nothing about what is happening beyond the three-mile American shore limit!

Which nation is fighting ISIS in Africa? Which nation's Air Force is bombing ISIS in Syria.

You are watching far too much of Fox News - careful, that leads to "brainwashing" ...

And you, "get real" - you're living not the American Dream but the American Bubble. The one that says America has always been "Great" and will always be "Great".

But YOU NEVER EVER PROVE THAT POINT BY MEANS OF STATISTICAL COMPARISONS. When one gets into the nitty-gritty of factual evidence, the US is NOT GREAT except for a select few of the super-rich. (Namely the Koch Brothers.)

The US could be greater by ridding itself of the Replicants in Congress and getting on with social plans that make for a National Healthcare System and Post-secondary Education - both free, gratis and for nothing.

This would require that upper-income taxation should rise to the level BEFORE they were brought down by a rich Texan president called LBJ in the 1960s. (See that here.)

That alone would make America "great again". That is, a country that focuses on the well-being of its people and is not fixated upon upper-income low-taxation that benefits only a select upper-class of families.

As is amply proven in the economic analyses of American wealth shown here:


Only 0.1% of American families have garnered 20% of all the Wealth generated, equally as much as 90% of the rest of us! Why? Because upper-incomes are hallucinatory and very low-taxed, which means they shift up into Wealth!

Wakey, wakey - you're living in a dreamworld ... !

 

The Left's various socialistic and/or Marxist schemes for a Utopian existence have been dragged so many times face down over the red hot and glowing coals of reality that there's nothing more to debate about. Lefitsts will continue to push their insanity upon the world -- methodically ruining nations in the process -- and intelligent people with a grasp of both history and economics will continue to fight them. That's how this works. Now you know.

 

Continue to live in your socialistic/leftist dream world, and perhaps if you are very lucky, reality won't come crashing down upon your head and that of your nation.

 

Yes, I know you have no argument but are compelled to keep commenting by what drives you.

 

1) England and France are so poor that they could not afford high priced medical care
2) I will concede that between their poverty and good socialist skills they do have low costs and good results
3) too bad that we hold 70% of all recent medical patents and our entrepreneurial culture invents and creates the health care they deliver. We provide their defense and their health care. Let socialism fend for itself and average life expectancy over there would be 49.
4) that said, if America had full capitalism we would match their prices and add 10-20 years to life expectancy.

 

The unfunded liabilities of the US were $144 Trillion two years ago - $1.2 million for each taxpayer. That is where Really Big Government comes from.

I doubt that "full capitalism" will ever be a vote getter, but diverting $200,000 from the political structure to individual vested healthcare accounts would be an easy sell. The politician who calls for that sort of thing will not have to run ads to win elections.

 

Yeah, right. We are 730 million dupes in Europe who believe in a Social Democracy (not "Socialism"). Learn the difference.

And you in the US are all "free spirits".

Grow up, see the world as it really is beyond the three-mile limit around the US ...

 

Aint gonna happin.

More senseless one-liner sarcasm from the Rabid Right.

You people take lessons in quick lunacy-responses on Web debate forums ... ?