BuzzFeed: Sources say Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie to Congress about proposed Moscow project

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  1. struth

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    Dems refuse to accept the report from Mueller. Buzzfeed's story was untrue...it was false
     
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    BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT HAPPENED:

    Buzzfeed knew it published a lie. Rest of the media knew it was a lie, spread it anyway. The story was BS. They knew it. We all did.

    BUT they figured there was no way they could be caught.

    Because no one dreamed Mueller would fact check them.John Nolte
     
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    You hit the nail on the head.
     
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    Precisely. He can't even accept that the buzzfeed story has been debunked by Mueller so, of course, he won't accept it. He won't accept anything that clears Trump. Period. TDS can be a nasty illness.
     
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    All you are saying is that you prefer the WaPo report over the Buzzfeed report.

    I accept Mueller's office's statement. I accept that it casts doubt on the Buzzfeed report. The WaPo report casts further doubt on it, but Buzzfeed is sticking by its story.

    So I'll ask the question again, that I have asked several times and that few if any Trump supporters have had the courage to answer. A question that you edited out of my post. Were you scared to answer too?

    I'll wait for the Mueller report and accept the findings. WILL YOU?
     
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    I will accept Mueller's findings. I hope that Barr releases the report itself. Even a redacted version.

    Will you accept anything that shows wrongdoing by Trump?
     
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    He just gave you one and you aren't accepting it.
     
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    The Democrats in the House and the Senate during Bill Clinton's impeachment.
     
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    Bill Clinton tried to get someone to lie in court for him. While he was president. While a trial was going on where he was the defendant. He also lied under oath in the whole thing, but that’s neither here no there for these purposes.

    He was impeached but not removed from office.
     
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    What if no crime is found? Mueller's office is a prosecutoral office. Prosecutors don't release reports to the public of what they find out about persons when there is no crime. If your local DA investigates you for suspicion of committing a crime, goes through all your personal papers, interviews people who know you, all your text and emails and then does not charge you with a crime they do not release a report to the public of everything they did find out about you. If Mueller finds no crime what do you want released?
     
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    His report.
     
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    The law doesn't allow it. The AG issues the report. And you dodged the substance of my post. If there is no crime what is he suppose to report to you about and why?
     
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    The law does allow it. Mueller gives his report to the AG. I haven't seen anything that would prevent the AG from making that report public, in its entirety.

    He is supposed to report on his investigation. And I'm sure he will. In any event, he has already found lots of crimes.

    You (and all other Trump supporters) have avoided my question.

    I will accept Mueller's findings. Even if he exonerates the president. Will you accept his findings? Even if he reports that the president committed crimes?
     
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    It remains to be heard what the Special Prosecutor means. Buzzfeed stands by the story.
     
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    Mueller did not use the word false!
     
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    Guess what Webster’s says false means? Inacurrate,
     
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    Van Jones says.....


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    Because the Democrats do not believe that perjury and obstruction rise to the level of an impeachable offense.
     
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    A distinction without merit. If something is inaccurate it is false.
     
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    As Barr stated in his testimony the report is to HIM and is not a public document he can just release. It will contain private information which you have no right to see and which is to be protected to guard the rights of those mentioned in the report. HE will issue a report. I will accept the decision Barr makes from what Mueller reports to him. So far you have not accepted what Mueller as stated publicly. And if Barr issues a report saying no crimes have been referred to him case closed what will you say?
     
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    He means they went through their evidence and there is nothing in it that Buzzfeed is reporting is there.
     
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    That is jumping to a conclusion that is not yet apparent!
     
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    He didn't mix his words...he said the report was inaccurate...which is a nice way of saying false.
     
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    Actually, you're the one mixing words. The report may only be inaccurate to the extent that Trump probably didn't use those exact words. More likely he talked in hyperbolic terms, in much the same way the tapes show him and Cohen discussing how to pay off Stormy Daniels.

    This does not mean that Trump did not tell Cohen to lie to Congress (or that he did).

    But since Cohen himself is going to testify shortly, and in public too, I imagine this is a question that I suspect you're not anxious to hear an answer to.
     
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    Inaccurate is saying 50 people were killed in Las Vegas shooting.
    False is saying the shooter didn't use a high powered rifle to do it.
     

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