California ammo control lawsuit

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by OrlandoChuck, Jan 6, 2018.

  1. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    6,002
    Likes Received:
    1,313
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The National Rifle Association is readying a lawsuit against California’s new ammunition controls.

    Ammunition controls went into effect January 1, 2018. They bar out-of-state ammunition purchases and require that all in-state purchases be made from a licensed dealer. This shrinks the supply, which will inevitably drive up price. Moreover, they require that any ammunition purchased online be sent to a licensed in-state dealer, who will then charge a processing fee for the ammo, thereby driving the price up even further.

    This is all a prelude to the state’s January 1, 2019, goal of instituting point-of-sale background checks for ammunition purchases. Those sales will also carry a fee, ubiquitously to cover the cost of the background check. But the fee will drive the price of ammo even higher.


    The NRA-ILA clams certain “statutorily mandated” deadlines were missed throughout the process of getting the ammunition controls in place, and argues that the controls must be halted because of this. According to the NRA-ILA, “The Office of Administrative Law (OAL) has approved the Department of Justice’s (DOJ) proposed ammunition vendor regulations after failing to meet the statutorily mandated deadline of July 1, 2017 and the effective date of January 1, 2018.”

    The NRA has enjoyed recent success against California gun control. For example, on June 29, 2017, a “high capacity” magazine ban was blocked two days before its scheduled implementation. The ban was stopped via a suit brought by the NRA and the California Rifle & Pistol Association.
     
    6Gunner, Greataxe and yiostheoy like this.
  2. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2015
    Messages:
    2,890
    Likes Received:
    494
    Trophy Points:
    83
  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2015
    Messages:
    31,109
    Likes Received:
    20,716
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    that shows how dishonest Democrat appointed judges are along with some statist republicans.
     
    6Gunner and RedDirtWalker like this.
  4. yiostheoy

    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2016
    Messages:
    8,603
    Likes Received:
    3,454
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The first thing I did after I left Cali was to buy 3 nice high cap 5.56x45 mags for my "assault rifle". And also 2 single ammo pouches and a cartridge belt for these.

    It's nice to have escaped the Peoples Republic Of Commiefornia.
     
  5. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Next, they will require ammunition sold in CA to have some sort of identifying charateristic, to be associated with the buyer.
    As no major manufacturer has such a thing, ammo sales in CA will cease.

    And remember: The left wants CA gun control laws at the federal level.
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,625
    Likes Received:
    63,059
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I know more support anti-gun laws then anti-marijuana laws, let people decide for themselves
     
  7. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because, as I am sure you know, the Constitution doesn't secure the rights of the people from the will of the majority.
     
    Reality likes this.
  8. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Is the District of Columbia now issuing concealed carry licenses?
     
    Reality likes this.
  9. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I did the same. The day I unpacked I took my bullet button off and mailed it along with a nice letter to Moonbeams office.
     
  10. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Clear disenfranchisement of a Constitutionally protected right.
     
  11. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You mostly lose these cases
     
  12. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not at SCOTUS. That's all that matters.

    Are they issuing concealed carry licenses in Washington, DC now?
     
  13. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They are.
    Because the constitution says they have to.
     
    Reality and vman12 like this.
  14. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes but they've gone from "handgun ban" to, we'll say we'll issue but we won't, to "ok we'll issue, don't take us to SCOTUS".

    That's a major victory.
     
  15. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is.
    And it creates a split in the circuit courts.
     
    vman12 likes this.
  16. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We are not discussing a SCOTUS case
     
  17. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am. You can do whatever you want.
     
    Reality likes this.
  18. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SCOTUS has agreed to hear this case? LOL
     
  19. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They will eventually.

    Do you have a point or is this just more of the same?
     
  20. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They will? SCOTUS turns down the VAST majority of cases that they are asked to see. This will LIKELY never make it that far
     
  21. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Indeed.
    2 of the circuits disagree with the 9th; an appeal is likely to generate a hearing.
    Given this, it is no wonder DC did not appeal to the SCotUS.
     
    Reality and vman12 like this.
  22. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well I guess we'll find out eventually, won't we.
     
  23. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    SCOTUS recieves over 7,000 cases a year. It reviews about 75 to 80. This will likely never make the cut
     
  24. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2016
    Messages:
    49,909
    Likes Received:
    5,343
    Trophy Points:
    113
    1 or 2 percent chance. LOL
     
  25. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure. Stick with liberal math, I could care less.
     

Share This Page