California Bill Would Give $1,000 Fines to Retailers With Separate 'Girls' and 'Boys' Toy Sections

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  1. Kal'Stang

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    Why do you think the 2nd Amendment exists? Its because the Founders saw that governments become tyrannical. Laws like this, that micro-manage peoples lives, are tyrannical in nature.
     
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    Still are except when they put them on now we have to call them Ma'am.
     
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    California Bill Would Give $1,000 Fines to Retailers With Separate 'Girls' and 'Boys' Toy Sections




    This sounds completely compatible with liberal idiocy.
     
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    I remember those platform shoes!
     
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    I gave your post a like, but I don't know what SSM abbreviates; neither did google.
     
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    The propaganda that blacks are equals, as human beings? Or that there's nothing wrong with marrying someone of a different race?

    Maybe you are somewhat asleep-- so deeply that you'd been referring to the women voting, and working, as well?
     
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    No, I'm wide awake. Women have been working and voting for a long time now.
     
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    From Wiki:
    Propaganda is communication that is primarily used to influence an audience and further an agenda, which may not be objective and may be selectively presenting facts in order to encourage a particular synthesis or perception, or using loaded language in order to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to ...

    Everybody does it and we have been subjected to a **** storm of it for the last 4 years from every direction. What we decide to believe is purely subjective.
     
  9. DEFinning

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    Right, those were among the things that Maquiscat listed, which your reply, "see how effective propaganda can be?" seemed to refer to as propaganda.

    It's hard not to notice that you only addressed my 2nd group of Maquiscat's, updated, "norms"--was the omission of the others intentional?
     
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    Your conclusion, which does not narrow the subject matter about which of our beliefs are purely subjective, is a bit of an overstatement (unless you are trying to turn this into the well-worn philosophical debate that ALL REALITY is subjective which, of course, is true, in even the most literal sense). But since that argument would make moot the temporal distinction which you are asserting (as the passage of time, employing that perspective, would also be something about which we could not be certain was real-- if you were coming at the concept from the angle of reality being something other than it appears, created and/or manipulated by some outside force), I am guessing you were just being hyperbolic.

    There is surely much truth to your statement, though. The irony, however, is that I believe you meant it much differently than the way I, & many others, would take it. That is, the majority of those with an opinion on the matter would say that storm of fecal matter has been most severe, coming from our last President, his Administration, the Republican cohort in Congress, right wing news sites, and, naturally, the internet's conspiracy theorists. From the context of the thread in which you're making your claim, is it safe for me to assume that you had something else in mind?
     
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    I was only poking a little fun at the communication difficulties you & Giftedone had experienced, & hoped you might, also, get a chuckle from the A & C analogy. I did not intend to offend you; so I'm sorry, as that seems to be how you took it.
     
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    Abbot?
     
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    It was in response to DEFinning's parody of Abbott and Costello's famous comedy routine "Who's on First?"
     
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    Incorrect. While a majority who do are transgender's, Drag Queens still identify as male/men. In addition there are also people like the one man in England, who goes to work in men's shirt and tie and a power skirt and heels. He still identifies as a man. We also have the now wide spread use by women of what used to be considered in the recent past as only men's clothes. Pants have been a woman's fashion several times throughout history, and gowns and dresses have been men's. Togas were a universal fashion. Both sexes have used corsets in the past, and even today there are some men who use bras or other methods, such as bands, because their breasts are grown enough as to cause pain. And yes, all men do have natural breasts. Even purses were a men's fashion at one point. Women had large pockets built into their dresses, but men's pants had none, and the used over the shoulder bags for carrying stuff. It's all gone back and forth throughout history.
     
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    Not platform shoes. Those are a relatively recent variation. Just like the skort is a new item, historically speaking, high heels also had a start point. They were first worn by Persian men in the 10th century, and then later adopted by european men around the 17th century.
     
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    Same sex marriage.
     
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    But when the change to allow them to do so was occuring, it was considered liberal propaganda. That generation was normalizing what was once socially unacceptable. Hell, marrying for love was once socially unacceptable.
     
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    Consider them included and I stand by what I said. Propaganda is a tool to restructure a social system.
     
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    Are you saying that propaganda can be as positive as it can be negative?
     
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    Well, we are living now and what we are discussing are men who claim to be women and women who claim to be men. Neither actually is and yet society is supposed to treat them as if their delusion is fact. I remember the man/purse thing. Seinfeld said it was "European". When one of my coworkers carried one the talk was he was gay, I don't think he actually was but you never know.

    The Black are people too campaign has been a long arduous job to change social practices of very stubborn people. One example I remember that was ground level was a western movie "Death of a Gunfighter" staring Richard Widmark and Lena Horne as a couple. Now she was very ight skinned but she was still Lena Horne and the big question was would they kiss. Seemed like a no brainer to me, it was after all Lena Horne but I don't think they did. That they even made such a movie and a Western was big news entertainment wise.

    Sidney Poitier made several movies that gave us a Black man in roles to show the good traits we all share and he was good in those roles too. He was one of the most popular stars of my generation and made Hollywood a lot of money. One of those movies was "The Defiant Ones" in which Curtis played a Southern redneck with all the prejudices that involved and they were two escaped prisoners handcuffed together. Bosom buddies at the end and we were all glad.

    Propaganda, used to change social norms and views and it is heavily involved today.
     
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    It WAS liberal propaganda.
     
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    I'm saying it is used to advance a point of view by putting a positive spin on that point of view. Deciding the virtue of the cause is up to the target population.
     
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    Why are you asking me? It appears we agree.
     
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    Because you said: "I doubt anybody could have imagined that government would do something so stupid.". Perhaps I misread something?
     
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    Perhaps you responded to someone else's post mixed up by having my handle on it. The site does that pretty regularly.
     

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