Californians fed up with housing costs and taxes are fleeing state in big numbers

Thankfully not.

 

If they secede it's all good. Seems like a good bargain. They get a very productive state (if they can keep it). Middle America can respect gun rights, have less regulation, less social spending, etc.

 

It won’t work. Once California officially becomes an extension of 3rd world Mexico they’ll simply invade surrounding states and ruin those too.

Actually that’s already been happening for decades.

 

If you are separate nations you can have customs. They can stop your guns coming in (though at this point they have so many there's no point), you can stop their illegals.

 

The thing you need to realize is that California isn’t the problem, it’s the end result of the problem. Every state in the country is being attacked with the left’s demographic replacement agenda. That’s the real issue.

 

Yeah, what a terrible place to be...

https://www.forbes.com/places/ca/

You realize high housing prices is a GOOD problem to have? It means people genuinely want to live in California. Unlike Texas, Nevada, and Arizona which are, um, likened to the dark holes on the human body were feces leave from. Bad weather, lesser economics, and ugliness are three problems those three states face. That's why housing there is cheap. Even with good paying jobs, people don't want to pay much to live there because of the problems above.

As for taxes, Californians have more infrastructure and again, more economic opportunities, than in those three states. California is the world's sixth largest economy. The SIXTH in the WORLD. They make up 14% of the US economy.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...rown-approves-a-183-1498583088-htmlstory.html

Also, they have a budget that is paying down debt, increasing investment in education, and has 8.5 billion in a rainy day fund. What's the rainy day fund look like in your state? Of the three mentioned in your article (which is from a fake news site by the way so I'm not sure why you used it!!!) Texas is the best with 19.3% of it's budget going to rainy day, Arizona is a puny 4.3% and Nevada has NO rainy day fund. Thankfully, it never rains in Nevada which is also why no one wants to live there hence the cheap houses.

And lastly, 183k people represents a 0.5% loss of population. Nothing really to get excited about, in fact, that's hardly noticeable. So while I agree housing prices are high in California as are taxes, clearly it's working just fine. Your claim that it's a blue state disaster isn't supported by any measure considering the overall trend is California is and will be the most populous and prosperous state in the nation. And let's not forget, California has been a red state in the past and has had GOP majorities in it's legislature and the governor's mansion, so to say that it's future successes or failures are largely in the hands of one party or the other is also a lie/factually incorrect.

 

The claim that California is suffering from mass exodus AND rising housing prices sort of fails to meet the sniff test.

Laws of Supply and Demand would indicate that either prices fall with lessening demand or the demand is rising to cause higher prices. If there were some type of exodus - then prices for housing would be dropping. So I'm going to rate this story shaky at best.

 

California isn't a problem at all. It's supporting the rest of the nation with it's economy. That makes the rest of us the problem...

 

And if there's no California you have a good shot at strengthening the border with Congress and the White House, minus 55 odd EVs and Democratic Presidents who appoint Ginsburg and Co.

 

Yeah, they shouldn't celebrate this. The more urban those states become, the less republican they become. Phoenix with 5 million, Vegas with about 1.5 million, and Texas with various metro areas are starting to overtake the more solid and reliable rural GOP voters in those states. It may not influence the House as much, but it will start to influence senate and presidential races. And as the metro areas swallow up more and more rural areas with growth, especially in Texas, that will influence local governments as well. So the OP should really pray California is a raging liberal/blue state/democratic success to keep those voters out of those three reliable red states.

 

There's no need to strengthen the border. If anything, most border states understand the value of making cross border economics work to their benefit. That's something states in the middle of the country have zero experience with and thus have less valuable opinions of.

 

Yesterday I watched the program House Hunters. A couple bought a house in SF for a little over 1.1 million dollars. Here in Nebr it might have sold for $140,000. No wonder people are leaving Calif with their high prices, high taxes, and big cities with large stinking slums. One of the biggest problems is they see they high taxes go to criminal invaders.

 

California comes in 22nd place with respect to GDP per capita...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita

 

California has become a very frightening hermit state.

 

While you are at it, take note of the corporate exodus that is leaving as well- Toyota, Nissan, Nestle and dozens of other majors are moving out. Thousands of them.
One company that had been trying to get a permit to build a new plant in California for 10 years finally gave up, and moved to Arizona- where two years later the new plant was done and in full operation.

 

tx will eventually go blue in a few years.

 

Only in three or four of Texas largest cities.

The real Texas will remain red.

 

sorry, but that is unlikely

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blue-texas-its-way-more-complicated-than-you-think./article/2011662#!

 

Taxes are one thing.
But the housing costs you mention is NOTHING to do with taxation or regulation or government...it is to do with a huge housing market.

My brother lives in the San Francisco Bay Area and he can tell you the housing market there has gone absolutely insane.


I agree with low taxation and regulations.

But you saying/implying that Californians are leaving California primarily do to government faults is simply untrue.

I might add that though I do NOT agree with everything the state government of California does. They HAVE balanced their budget (something the inept morons in Washington can only dream of doing)...and I strongly applaud them for that.

 

Holey green amphibious sh!t !!!

If true, Texas will become another California "hermit state" run by reconquista socialist where the middle class Americans will have no representation in the Texas state capitol in Austin.

 

lol, i guess resistance is futile, soon all will be liberal and conservatives will despare

 

im all for lower property taxes but you people saying California should secede are insane. If they do we would literally lose half of the tech sector. Housing costs are high for more than the reasons you state. They are high mostly because people want to live there. Property taxes are another issue.

 

I'm not sure if that is good or not. I don't know much about fetus brain development and such.

 

I'm glad they are secular. The problem is that everything else is so poorly managed.

 

Physical pleasure without the judgement of others. Peace of mind. Less limits on changing humanity as we see fit. For me, I also simply enjoy seeing a decline in at least one form of mental opposition. The left is weaker and thus easier to cope with than the religious right.