Californians Suggest ‘Calexit’ in Wake of Donald Trump Win

http://time.com/4564119/california-calexit-donald-trump-victory/

Funny how these people - 24 hours ago - would mock TX for the same thing.
Those of you who tell us TX cannot secede - will you please remind your west-coast friends?
And if CA does secede - what will they use for currency? Who will protect their borders?

 

They aren't going anywhere. They're blowing smoke and tears out their backsides simultaneously. Boo freakin' hoo!

 

Yeah they were mocking Texans for saying so.....now they want to act like that's what they really want.

How about those wanting to leave from Californification. Just start walking to Canada, instead.

Texas has more blondes and less plastic, anyways.

 

they might secede and pledge allegiance to mexico.

 

Comedy gold! The shoe is officially on the other foot.

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They can try, and then we can fight a new Civil War in which they'll get to play the role of the Confederacy.

 

And if they do leave, which they're not going to do, how are they going to survive? This goes to show the hypocrisy of members of the left.

 

In the interest of not being a hypocrite, I say let them go. They get all California military members and enough military vehicles to secure their borders. They also get their share of the national debt. I give them 3 months before they come crawling back or join Mexico. Mexico will take the land and most Californians will flee to the US. They can establish trade with other countries if they have any products to trade. Maybe Hollywood actors will stay and help them. Their people are unarmed. We'll just divert our wall to our side of California.

California's assets:
Silicon Valley
Agriculture
Tourism
Wine
Some renewable energy (but not enough)


California needs:
Weapons (for border and population security)
Desalination plants for potable water
Energy (oil and gas because renewables won't be enough)
Manufacturing (vehicles)

 

Goodness! I can't muster up a Give a Crap what Californians do.

 

If they're an independent nation they can't "flee" to the US. We have a border.

Looks like we're going to need another wall.

 

I've always been a fan of being able to secede, but I would only do it during desperate times. (total financial collapse and lack of order in the US, food riots, etc.......) Only then would it be in anybody's best interest to secede. The financial and military entanglements between the states is difficult to unravel. (military member's loyalty, nuclear weapons, national debt, nuclear power, water rights, border crossing and security, etc......) A Trump presidency is not desperate times.

 

I agree. The cost of admission is their individual share of the national debt. Hollywood would pay up and leave CA in a heartbeat. We could help them secure their border with our military if they pay for it. Their security would be in our best interests also because they share our border. They would soon muster up the forces to take over their own security. We could have Californians pay for our wall in exchange for security.

Parallel side note:

If Trump seals our border, Mexico will have to fix their own problems. They will beg the US for military help and in return we will take oil as payment and use it to build our wall more securely. We use our military for our best interest and Mexico pays for our wall.

 

The best thing that can happen regarding California would be for all the illegal aliens to be thrown out immediately (now, we may be moving toward the correct interpretation of already-established immigration law). Next most desirable? Let California secede, and, take those hyperliberal goofballs in Oregon and Washington State with them. That way when the Hayward and San Andreas Faults in California rupture in ML 8.4 earthquakes, and the Juan de Fuca Plate off the coasts of Oregon and Washington cause a recored-breaking quake estimated to go beyond ML 9.4 -- we in the United States won't have to pay for any of it! The hyperlib morons on the "Left Coast" can pray to Gaia (or whatever) that this doesn't happen, if they believe in anything/anyone at all....

 

You mean they haven't already?

 

Why do liberals almost always over react and go over the top with their drama? I swear, everything they accuse the right of doing they're 10 times more guilty of it themselves.

 

Why don't they just all move to Mexico?

 

Yikes!

Oregon's politics are that the libs are concentrated in two cities, Portland and Eugene. The rest is split, except for eastern Oregon which is totally red.

I want Oregon split between east and west.

The new secessionist nation can have western Oregon.

Now that we've got that settled, it's all good. Thank you.

 

I was all for Texas leaving. More power to them. Take Bush with you. Culturally I don't think the United States makes much sense as being one nation, but things are a little bit harder to parse when talking about the military and economy. Maybe the Formerly United States could work together like NATO, only with the members actually paying a similar amount of GDP.

 

If Trump doesn't follow through on securing the border, I'm moving to Mexico. In a year or two I should have the whole country to myself

 

Im all for CA leaving the US... most other states are also.....better CA (anti-constitutional) leaves than TX (our bastion of patriotism!)

Ive been waiting for years for them to break off and float away!

 

Maybe they want to go back to Mexico like in these days

[video=youtube;eSgbxPtyv1U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSgbxPtyv1U[/video]

 

Just build a bridge directly from meheeco to California and let them support their own illegals.

 

Isnt CA just 1 big sanctuary city?!

 

We could never be lucky enough to have a California leave.

 

Here's more:

http://www.businessinsider.com/calexit-explainer-california-plans-to-secede-2016-11

Californians are calling for a 'Calexit' from the US — here's how a secession could work

Melia Robinson

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Protesters against president-elect Donald Trump march through Oakland, California, on November 9. Noah Berger/Reuters
A fringe political group in California wants to opt out of a Donald Trump presidency by leaving the union.

The Yes California Independence Campaign aims to put a referendum on a 2018 ballot that, if passed, would make California an independent country.

Far-fetched as it may sound, the plan started gathering steam after Tuesday night's surprising vote. The movement has an impressive backer in Shervin Pishevar, a well-known angel investor who offered to bankroll the campaign.

"As the sixth largest economy in the world, California is more economically powerful than France and has a population larger than Poland. Point by point, California compares and competes with countries, not just the 49 other states," Yes California wrote in a statement.

Louis Marinelli, an outspoken political activist and president of Yes California, envisions California as a sovereign entity within the US, much like Scotland in the United Kingdom.


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There is no clear path for how California might appeal to the federal government so that it may leave. The US Constitution lays out procedures for how a new state may enter the union, but there are no pre-existing protocols for a nation to exit.

Marinelli, however, sees a workaround.

The process most likely with a ballot measure passed by California voters.

In 2015, Marinelli paid $200 each to get nine initiatives related to secession on a statewide ballot, according to The Los Angeles Times. None garnered the nearly 400,000 signatures necessary to appear on the ballot. So Marinelli and his followers are forced to start over.

Yes California now aims to gather enough signatures to put a referendum on the 2018 ballot, when Californians will choose their next governor.

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Californians across the state marched in protest of president-elect Donald Trump on election night. Noah Berger/Reuters

Should a clear majority declare their support for a Brexit-style departure, the group may follow down one of two paths. Both lean on a significant case argued before the US Supreme Court in 1869 — Texas v. White — which touched on a state's ability to seceded.

Here's option 1, as described in a statement from Yes California:

"A member of the California federal delegation to Washington would propose an Amendment to the U.S. Constitution allowing the State of California to withdraw from the Union. The Amendment would have to be approved by 2/3 of the House of Representatives and 2/3 of the Senate. If the Amendment passed it would be sent to the fifty state legislatures to be considered (to satisfy the "consent of the states" requirement in Texas v. White). It would need to be accepted by at least 38 of the 50 state legislatures to be adopted.

Alternatively:

"California could call for a convention of the states (which is currently being organized to tackle other constitutional amendments as we speak) and the Amendment granting California its independence would have to be approved by 2/3 of the delegates to this convention. If it passed, the Amendment would be sent to the fifty state legislatures to be considered and 38 of the 50 states would have to approve the measure in order for it to be adopted."

No state has ever seceded from the union, despite Texas' best efforts earlier this year.

"The legality of seceding is problematic,' Eric McDaniel, associate professor of government at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Texas Tribune in June, at the height of Brexit hysteria. "The Civil War played a very big role in establishing the power of the federal government and cementing that the federal government has the final say in these issues."

Marinelli acknowledges the road ahead is long.

"What's going on in the US politically and culturally is so different from what's happening here," Marinelli told the LA Times in 2015. "I want California to be all it can, and our group feels the political and cultural connection to the US is holding us back from our potential."

 

If California were to do it, it would most certainly have a domino affect and all other liberal states would want to join in... since without California the balance of power would massively shift in favor of republicans. Is that still okay?