California's Hateful Gun Laws are worthless

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In stopping a mass shooting as just proven. and the Anti Gun movement is howling for more failed laws. The shooter passed a background check, was subjected to a waiting period and was banned from having more than a ten round magazine (a law he ignored, along with laws against carrying his weapon to the bar and of course shooting people). Furthermore, after he was assaulted and appeared irate, months ago, he was examined by health care professionals who determined he was not a threat.

    when are people going to realize that the push for more gun control is not honestly intended to stop these sorts of crimes?
     
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    Those who believe government has the ability to fix problems that stem from individual choice, are incapable of comprehending anything different. They cannot comprehend the fact that an individual has the ability to decide to engage in illegal activity simply because they decide to disregard the law.
     
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    I think in the minds of some people they do truly believe more gun control laws will help reduce gun crimes. I have some friends who have zero interest in banning any guns, but they truly believe more gun laws will reduce gun deaths. They of course are wrong...but they do believe "stronger" laws will work.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I should have made a distinction between sheep and the leaders.
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    Again we see you offer no solutions and only attack those trying to solve the problem
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you are wrong-and trying to use the tragedy to infringe on the rights of others is really pretty sad
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    And you are wrong pushing for even more lax gun laws while the bodies pile up
     
  8. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well that is based on your opinion that lax gun laws cause bodies to pile up. I reject that unproven nonsense and I believe that those who push for more gun laws really aren't motivated by a desire to decrease crime
     
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    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    We have the most lax gun laws in the developed world and 25 times the gun deaths of those other countries. The math is pretty simple. Those who push for lax gun laws do not care about gun deaths
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    those who push for more gun laws only care about harassing honest citizens and infringing on their rights
     
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    Those who push for lax gun laws do not care about the trail of dead bodies that result from that policy
     
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    The united states is too overpopulated as it is.
     
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    Some people never learn
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    those who push for silly laws that wouldn't have stopped the killer(lets see what you have advocated: 1) background check-YEP it was done 2) WAITING PERIOD-yep at least ten days 3) Mental Health evaluation-YEP this guy was interviewed and investigated) are interested mainly in harassing gun owners.

    tell us Vegas what other laws would have prevented this shooting in California
     
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    I would be happy to. Will we be hearing all the details of your plan as well?
     
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    Tell us about it, if only we had even MORE gun laws, our shooter would not have ignored THOSE laws, just the current ones...
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you constantly argue for more gun restrictions, you then refuse to answer honest questions when people ask you to prove your claims. you play whack a mole anytime someone tries to pin down your arguments with the nonsensical demand others-who aren't about infringing on rights -post "plans"

    we don't have plans to INFRINGE ON THE RIGHTS of honest people
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    does anyone even believe he actually thinks his plans are going to stop criminals

    EVERY GUN CONTROL LAW vegas claims he wants was in place in California

    1) a lengthy waiting period
    2) a background check
    3) and an investigation by mental health care professionals

    what else does Vegas want? When we ask him he engages in evasion by demanding we post OUR PLANS to harass gun owners
     
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    Why are you unwilling to present your plan to reduce gun deaths?
     
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    Your idea, explain. GO!
     
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