Calling Prophet Muhammad a pedophile does not fall within freedom of speech: European court

Because you have an agenda against Muslims.

You have provided no links.

 

But he wasn't a paedophile, new EU rules. He only raped a 9 year old, Gary Glitter all is forgiven.

 

Why ask me? Ask the vile Muslims who are arranging child marriage and child rape, and usimg their holy texts to justify it. Oh ,that's right, you are here to be their human shield....

There will be no honest analysis forthcoming from you. And, frankly, you deserve to be reviled for your own attempts to transfer this immorality and evil onto those criticizing it. People like you are precisely why we need free speech.

 

Did you know, in 1880, the minimum age to marry a child in Delaware was 7. Bloody peadophiles.

 

There are a lot of these, I could post them all day long.
Many by Ashia herself


Narrated Hisham's father:
Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)


Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)'

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).


Even Allah is a pedophile

Sahih Bukhari 9.140
Narrated 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle said to me, "You were shown to me twice (in my dream) before I married you. I saw an angel carrying you in a silken piece of cloth, and I said to him, 'Uncover (her),' and behold, it was you. I said (to myself), 'If this is from Allah, then it must happen.

 

That's fantastic.

Do you have any links please.

 

And we reformed that using secular ideas and precisely the same criticism you are dcisrediting and embarrassing yourself to deflect in this very discussion. Your point of history serves precisely to show what a morally backwards position you have taken. Thank you for the assistance.

And i think now is a good time to point out this anti intellectual, dishonest tactic of "whataboutism". One vile act does not excuse another. Will we find you in threads which criticize the guarded pedophilia in the catholic church, shielding them from criticism by pointing out the institutionalized child rape in much of the Muslim world?

Of course, we will not, nor would such embarrassing behavior be a valid defense. So spare us all this blatantly dishonest effort to do this in this discussion,thank you in advance.

 

That isn't true. It is what suits your and other Muslims haters agenda's. I love the way you believe you are more knowledgeable than the European Court but then I know we are living in a post truth era.

 

You don't need to be a Christian to understand the significance of the proverb.

 

Not to bright are you.
Each one has the book and verse number.

 

Sure...like that's an original idea...all your own.

 

Please don't be a hypocrite.

The law and traditions way back in Mohammad's day does not conform to today's laws and traditions. The age of Aisha is under debate, anywhere up to the age of 20, but that's by the by.

In Delaware, the laws and traditions meant you could marry a 7 year old in 1880.

So in the above, assume the bride's were 6, 7 or 8, if they had sex, the husband was a peadophile, but, according to you, am I right in saying just Mohammad?

 

I love irony, I asked for links and was giving book titles. Would you like to try again?

Edit : Blogs don't count!! Lol

 

I quoted you sahih muslim, one of the most trusted islamic source; it's one of the most trusted islamic source. It's ironic that you're the one mentionning that the post truth era. That's a long time I don't have any confidence anymore either in journalists or judges.
When an islamic source mention that their prophet had sexual intercourse with a 9YO, and the law wish us to force us to understand that he is not a paedophile, effectivly, we're living in the post truth era.

But I perfectly understood its significance, I don't need to apply it however.

 

Excuse you,please don't be a small little liar. Not only was I not alive in Delaware the time of which you speak, I neither condone nor excuse the behavior of which you speak.

My views are quite consistent...you,on the other hand, attempt to shield the evil incarnate in the Muslim world by pointing to past evils elsewhere that were corrected PRECISELY by the intellectual process which you now aim to obstruct. There is only one hypocrite here, and it is you.

 

No it is not under debate.
Some cleric found some of the many mistakes in the Qur"an to date her differently.
However "ALL" of the writings about he say a child of 6, one says 7.


Book 008, Number 3311:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.

In the next hadith, we learn that playing with dolls is only permitted for prepubescent children:

From Sahih al-Bukhari,

Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girlfriends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me.

(The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

 

Ah! Quote cherry picking.

I am not shielding anything, I am presenting facts.

So we're people peadophiles in Delaware in 1880 when they married 7 yr old girls?

 

It is absurd that you even feel compelled to respond to this ridiculous attempt at justification of evil acts, when the people committing them justify them precisely by their religious texts. The person to whom you are responding needs to get on the correct Side of morality and of history and direct their efforts at the people doing these evil acts and using the Islamic texts to justify it.

That is how reform happens. This equivocating human shield is fighting against reform,not for it.

 

The point is that the state is forcing the citizens by threat of prosecution to respect this man and the religion he represents.

Europe is getting more Islamic by the day as threat of prosecution is commenplace for those who don't respect Mohammed in Islamic countries.

Doesn't matter if he was or wasn't a child rapist. That shouldn't even be a topic in this thread....because it's off topic.

What matters is that some people believe he was a child rapist and that is their individual opinion and thought. Can people have individual thought and opinions in Europe? Or not? That is the debate.

 

Good point. Similarly they murder large numbers of innocent people and proclaim that God will bless them with heaven and a number of virgins to have sex with. It is a blasphemous mockery of God and reason. And I can just imagine Satan smirking over it.

 

This was written by the most powerful Muslim on earth in 1979.
Comparable to the Pope writing it.

A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.

["Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]

 

A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm.He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milkmay no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned.

 

Indeed. King John I of England married a nine year old.

 

The Royals in the UK have always been paedo's and inbreds as they are to this day.

 

.Muhammed brand condoms.