Calling the Bluff

i'm doing my part to hasten their 'so-called' predictions... i keep my cummins running 24/7, i burn coal in my backyard 24/7 to make smores for the kids , i use commercial grade landscape equipment which requires 2 cycle oil mixed with the fuel, i keep my lights, tv, stereo, computer on 24/7, i eat chili, broccoli, baked beans, cheese...

 

I have gas.

 

No. I'm sorry I don't know. Can you be specific? What exactly is mentioned in the report that you feel is a doomsday prediction?

 

The landfill is sinking.

 

they did, st Mark's square has been flooding with regularity too. it's quite common.

could it stay or become more common? sure. I'd recommend seawalls and continued building code monitoring.

Most of those flood-prone properties were developed & grandfathered in long before we actually started taking flooding serious with elevation requirements.

In my city we didn't require homes or built up at all until 1984. We were slapping up houses at 5 feet above sea level less than 40 years ago. now its 7,8,9ft.

 

I'm still waiting for an example of a doomsday prediction from the IPCC AR5 report.

 

If I recall in the early 70's the panic crowd was warning us about the coming ice age.

 

If by panic crowd you mean the media...then yes. But scientists were overwhelmingly predicting that the planet would warm.

 

Some seem to be surprised that oceans rise during a warm interglacial.

 

Not in the 70s.

 

Yes. In the 70s too.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/2008BAMS2370.1

 

Does anyone seriously think people will stop driving their cars, give up air conditioning, computers, streaming movies and such in the US not to consider the poor nations that want to be like us giving up making better lives - nope I agree its a no so why bother? We will need to adapt using our science and technology or not but humanity is as a species hard to get rid of we will survive anything short of a black hole eating our planet.

 

Because more people are moving there and people can't afford the prices of oceanfront. King tides, subsistence, run off problems, etc etc.


https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/11/10/no-indication-of-sea-level-rise-in-miami/

 

And more exposure of the phony science used to hype global warming/climate change

Climate change hoax COLLAPSES as new science finds human activity has virtually zero impact on global temperatures

The climate change hoax has collapsed. A devastating series of research papers has just been published, revealing that human activity can account for no more than a .01°C rise in global temperatures, meaning that all the human activity targeted by radical climate change alarmists — combustion engines, airplane flights, diesel tractors — has virtually no measurable impact on the temperature of the planet.

Finnish scientists spearheaded the research, releasing a paper entitled, “No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change.”

The paper explains that IPCC analysis of global temperatures suffers from a glaring error — namely, failure to account for “influences of low cloud cover” and how it impacts global temperatures. Natural variations in low cloud cover, which are strongly influenced by cosmic radiation’s ability to penetrate Earth’s atmosphere due to variations in the strength of our planet’s magnetosphere, account for nearly all changes in global temperature, the researchers explain....

Cloud cover accounts for the real changes in global temperatures
This is further supported by researchers at Kobe University in Japan who published a nearly simultaneous paper that reveals how changes in our planet’s magnetic field govern the intensity of solar radiation that reaches the lower atmosphere, causing cloud formation that alters global temperatures....

In effect, cosmic rays which are normally deflected via the magnetosphere are, in times of weak or changing magnetic fields emanating from Earth itself, able to penetrate further into Earth’s atmosphere, causing the formation of low-level clouds which cover the land in a kind of “umbrella effect” that shades the land from the sun, allowing cooling to take place. But a lack of clouds makes the surface hotter, as would be expected. This natural phenomenon is now documented to be the primary driver of global temperatures and climate, not human activity.

Burn all the oil you want, in other words, and it’s still just a drop in the bucket compared to the power of the sun and other cosmic influences. All the fossil fuel consumption in the world barely contributes anything to actual global temperatures, the researchers confirmed.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-07-12-climate-change-hoax-collapses-new-science-cloud-cover.html

 

Katie Hopkins at her best. Humorous. Calls out posh boy.

 

The time for debate is over. We are all dead!

We only have 5 days left!
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1210615159233888256
Paul Joseph Watson
‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet

Remember guys, it's just 5 days until the UK is "plunged into a Siberian climate."

From the same trustworthy people who gave you mass starvation of humanity by the 80's, "ice free" Arctic summers by 2013 and Greta Thunberg.

You can trust them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver
Now the Pentagon tells Bush: climate change will destroy us
· Secret report warns of rioting and nuclear war
· Britain will be 'Siberian' in less than 20 years
· Threat to the world is greater than terrorism
Mark Townsend and Paul Harris in New York
...

Sat 21 Feb 2004 20.33 ESTFirst published on Sat 21 Feb 2004 20.33 EST

Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters..

A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.
...

 

Don't drive tonight!

 

Natural News is a fake news and conspiracy propaganda website. In fact, this particular article was written by Mike Adams himself. It's about as fake as it gets.

 

Lack of rebuttal noted.

 

It is a waste of time to rebut this. This only rebuts part of the article.

https://climatefeedback.org/claimre...ral-cloud-changes-can-explain-global-warming/

Flawed Reasoning: The authors' argument claims a correlation between cloud cover/relative humidity and global temperature proves that the former caused the latter without investigating whether they have the relationship backwards.

Inadequate support: The source of their claimed global cloud dataset is not given, and no research on their proposed mechanism for climate change is cited.

Fails to provide correct physical explanation: The manuscript incorrectly claims that the rise of atmospheric carbon dioxide is caused by release from ocean waters. It also provides no explanation for the claim that an increase in relative humidity causes global cooling.

This is the article they are rebutting:

NO EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE FOR THE SIGNIFICANT ANTHROPOGENIC CLIMATE CHANGE J. KAUPPINEN AND P. MALMI

Abstract. In this paper we will prove that GCM-models used in IPCC report AR5 fail to calculate the influences of the low cloud cover changes on the global temperature. That is why those models give a very small natural temperature change leaving a very large change for the contribution of the green house gases in the observed temperature. This is the reason why IPCC has to use a very large sensitivity to compensate a too small natural component. Further they have to leave out the strong negative feedback due to the clouds in order to magnify the sensitivity. In addition, this paper proves that the changes in the low cloud cover fraction practically control the global temperatur

 

"Finnish scientists spearheaded the research, releasing a paper entitled, “No Experimental Evidence for the Significant Anthropogenic Climate Change.”"

"This is further supported by researchers at Kobe University in Japan who published a nearly simultaneous paper that reveals how changes in our planet’s magnetic field govern the intensity of solar radiation that reaches the lower atmosphere, causing cloud formation that alters global temperatures.

That study, published in Nature, is called, “Intensified East Asian winter monsoon during the last geomagnetic reversal transition.” "

It is NOT settled science.

 

From Skeptical Science. https://skepticalscience.com/cosmic-rays-and-global-warming-advanced.htm

Higher numbers of galactic cosmic rays (GCR) should correlate with lower temperatures. The GCR's are going up between 2000-2012 while the global mean temperature rises.


Figure 5: Annual average GCR counts per minute (blue - note that numbers decrease going up the left vertical axis, because lower GCRs should mean higher temperatures) from the Neutron Monitor Database vs. annual average global surface temperature (red, right vertical axis) from NOAA NCDC, both with second order polynomial fits.


The evidence is weak for GCR cloud inducement as mentioned in the article from Nature.

Thus, climate records from the MIS 19 interglacial can be used to elucidate the mechanisms of a variety of climate changes, including testing the effect of changes in geomagnetic dipole field strength on climate through galactic cosmic ray (GCR)-induced cloud formation6,7,8, as the present evidence for this effect is weak and biased toward the oceans.

This last sentence from this paragraph from naturalnews does not come from the Nature article and is unjustified by any scientific evidence:

n effect, cosmic rays which are normally deflected via the magnetosphere are, in times of weak or changing magnetic fields emanating from Earth itself, able to penetrate further into Earth’s atmosphere, causing the formation of low-level clouds which cover the land in a kind of “umbrella effect” that shades the land from the sun, allowing cooling to take place. But a lack of clouds makes the surface hotter, as would be expected. This natural phenomenon is now documented to be the primary driver of global temperatures and climate, not human activity.

 

As I said "climate change", "global warming" is NOT settled science claims we humans are the cause and can effect the change are unfounded.

 

We are going to call the eco-doomsayers on their predictions. Humanity is not going to do any of the things that the eco-doomsayers say are the absolute minimum things that must be done immediately. So, we'll see.

Personally, I'm not at all worried about it. I don't put much stock in what people say. I put place more value in what they do.
When beachfront property starts declining in value, I'll revisit the issue.