Can America be Saved?

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does. The 1st amendment does not apply to private companies. You should know this.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The topic is free speech - and if it is being restricted - and it is.. Your claim that the first ammend does not apply to private companies is false.
     
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    Incorrect. Unless you think FB is part of Congress

    First Amendment
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
     
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    Never said facebook was part of congress .. and no law prohibiting free speech is being suggested.

    You need to stop making things up.
     
  5. ECA

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    Except you keep claiming 1st amendment applies to private businesses...it does not. You seem to not have a grasp on your own argument. There is only so much I can help you. If you're not willing to help yourself then that's on you.
     
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    You were the one that brought up the first ammendment .. My claim was simply that Free Speech is being limited. The fist ammendment as such does not apply to any business .. private or public .. as it is about Gov't making law restricting free speech .. but, Congress can make laws that do not allow private businesses to restrict free speech .. on the basis of the first ammendment principle. As private business - (in this case a Public Business ... as all are publically traded companies) .. have become a force - like Gov't - in restricting free speech ..
     
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    Incorrect. You simply don't understand 1A or the role of govt regarding 1A. The point of 1A was to LIMIT govt power regarding free speech. Or said another way...the First Amendment protects us against government limits on our freedom of expression. Why do you want govt to have more power in being able to dictate everything a private company does?
     
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    Already explained to you the distinction you just claimed was "incorrect" then go one to repeat what I just told you. What part of this is not about limiting power of the Gov't - but limiting power of an entity which is acting like Gov't .. did you miss .. and it is Congress .. not the first ammendment who should be making this law.. becaues this entity is limiting speech.

    Or do you think Its OK if some entity limits the "free speech" of the nation .. so long as it is not Gov't ? ..
     
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    Are you trying to justify sedition and terroristic violence by radical right extremists against our government and your fellow citizens while blaming Democrats?
     
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    Absolutely. Since the direction we are heading is not sustainable, it will eventually reach a tipping point and the pendulum will swing the other direction. We have a population growing fatter and sicker than ever. As people become too sick to work, eventually there will not be enough healthy people to pay the bills.
     
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    Private entities are NOT acting like govt because private companies can't govt can't limit certain things based on its rules. For private companies to be acting like govt they would not have limits on what is posted on their sites.
    Why do you want to give govt MORE power over private companies? I want less govt intrusion. You seem to want more.
    Why is it so hard for you to follow the rules of a social media company? Do you think sites like this forum we are on shouldn't be able to have its own rules? Why do you want govt to dictate what the rules should be on all social media sites?
     

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