Can I convince PF's resident 'Truthers' that AA77 hit the Pentagon? - Take Two

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    so WHAT difference does it make?
     
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    You were already pointedly asked about it a couple of pages ago. You're either too stupid to realize it, or are purposefully ignoring it. Too close to call.

    Clown on a tightrope.
     
  3. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    If an pumpkin can be shot with enought speed to penetrate both sides of a boat, why is not possible for a plane traveling 500+mph to penetrate the side of a building. Why do the laws of physics apply to one and not the other?
     
  4. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    stop dodging the question.

    so WHAT difference does it make?


    show us yer stuff!

    Oh wait you aint got no stuff and NAB is protecting you LMAO

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    realize what? that lofically yours is illogical?

    thats easy

    see he made a foolish claim and I called bull(*)(*)(*)(*), he cant explain.

    But then troughers never can. (at least not correctly)
     
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    KOOKOO...you agreed "under certain conditions" a pumpkin could penetrate both sides of a boat. You implied you understood the science ( because you claimed "under certain conditions...your words) so, what are those conditions and how come those "certain conditions" don't apply to the planes crashing into the building on 9/11.

    Why won't you answer? (I know why.... ;-) )
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    planes arent pumpkins

    peek a boo we see you!



    stop dodging the question.

    so WHAT difference does it make?


    show us yer stuff!

    Oh wait you aint got no stuff and NAB is protecting you LMAO

    now stop hiding behind your pumpkin and tell us all about it.
     
  7. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    So, tell us why the physic don't apply.
     
  8. MeshugeMikey

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    i think thats an inane question

    pumpkins are fairly SOFT and I DOUBT they could PENETRATE much!

    beware the SHADOW PLANE

    BUSH AND THS JOOOOOS DId it...with EMPS

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    aha ROADRUNNER TRUTH!!!

    Scientists for Roadrunner truth need to be made aware of this NEW NEW NEW Evidence
     
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    Yeah, I've seen the video previous to logic posting that. Are you serious that you didn't think it could? I mean, don't you guys read stories of all the weird things that have been slammed through things during tornadoes. Thinks about it, the speeds of a tornado:

    Which is slower than any of the planes going into any of the buildings. However, the speed of the objects coming out of the tornado maybe faster, which of course would only go to support the argument. There is also an analysis (however you have to pay for it) that gives the requirement specs for reinfornced concrete walls used to build nuclear power plants, if you have the spare cash you can pick it up here. $235 just to have a truther handwaive it away is useless to me.
     
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    MeshugeMikey New Member

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    on your tagline

    had you heard that Dawkins announced he had been victim to MILD sexual abuse as a kid?

    ya THINK that might have some bearing on his refusal to admit Gods Existance??
     
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    No, how about the fact there is no evidence of god?
     
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    koko, do you need to take a nap or something? cjnewson POINTEDLY asked you what happened to the smoke trail in the pic you linked versus the original study which did contain said smoke trail. While it might not be obvious to a clown like yourself, it's very clear someone tampered with the image you linked, which is a very common Truthbag tactic along with cherry picking, purposefully leaving out pertinent information, not bothering to fully read or comprehend their own links, and, of course, posting low res gifs.

    So, which was it clown?
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    About my tag line, I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) if he was a victim of mild sexual abuse as a kid. I like the quote because it's accurate. You can believe in whatever you want, it's your life, spend it how you'd like. I don't believe because I think it's unrealistic, and it's not my cup of tea.
     
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    At the risk of derailing the thread,

    Faith is matter of philosophy. Evidence does not inherently lead us to the correct answer. Deep thought and evaluation is no panacea that divines all truth. The evidence is that the human brain is flawed in its ability to perceive and record sensory data. Our brains are far more fickle than we let ourselves believe, and far more limited than we like to admit. This is because we all share flaws that are common to and caused by our design. (take that word as you wish) No one is exempt. In order to perceive something, it must be interacted with in some way recordable by our senses, but it's certainly conceited to think that the universe is only filled with things that we can sense. After all, we have trouble just with the things we CAN sense. Not the least of these is time, which we have a sophomoric ability to detect without even worrying about the concept of it being non linear, or even 1 dimensional.

    Couple our own flaws with the limitations of relative perception; it's impossible to view a problem from all angles, distances, time frames. One has to concede that our conclusions are no more concrete than our own finite existence in these meat bags we're currently wandering around in.

    Our faith in our perception is every bit as dependent on our ability to fill in the gaps in evidence as the faith of a disciple of God. And every bit as much a cop-out.

    The difference is, that we know we are flawed. So it stands to reason that faith in ourselves is foolish.
     
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    how the (*)(*)(*)(*) should I know or care what happened to a smoke trail? Hell they didnt even investigate 911 and you expect me to hire a pi to answer some dumb assed question like that?

    how do you tamper with cad drawing?

    oh wait I forgot you think that is a real plane!

    Um...sorry to interrupt your delusion but....dont worry I wont tell..... thats just a drawing of a plane not a real plane. Hate to break it to you but the troughers lied.

    Nothing changes the fact that it is a light pole mower. LMAO
     
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    yeh the shadow plane is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hilarious, but the fact that all these forensic experts we have accept it as real... well I spilled my coffee all over my keyboard more than once laughing.
     
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    Cool, so I take it from your own words therefor than you always respond and never duck and dodge? Cool, so can you first tell me why you edited the smoke out of your gif, and second, a response to your opinion about this (which I posted several times);

     
  19. Kokomojojo

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    "under certain conditions" a pumpkin could "POSSIBLY" as in MAYBE penetrate

    however I have not seen a pumpkin go through a boat yet got a link?
     
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    WHAT is the difference?

    Oh wait this is the question you keep dodging.
     
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    I located and am using it because of the truther logic. Religion is something I don't care about, or really debate. In my heart I believe that you should put your faith in whatever makes you a better person. My whole point is that there is a massive pile of factual available evidence in regards to 9/11. In the face of that the truthers just have faith that the government is behind it, they use that faith in place of evidence. I found the comparison between the two entertaining
     
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    but what you put your faith in IS your religion DUH

    bull(*)(*)(*)(*), thats what troughers do!

    The government IS their God! If the government said so they blindly follow and if the government is proven to be at fault they blindly defend making up some of the most childish silly (*)(*)(*)(*) I never would have dreamed I would hear coming from an adult. Which begs the question if they are adults.

    Truthers only want full disclosure.
     
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    Quit dodging and ducking koko. I know you were the one who put together the gif. You were the one who removed the smoke trail. Why? Is it because it debunks your pointless argument that the aircraft took no damage going through them?

    Quit dodging and ducking.
     
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    And my point was that faith is not something that you are above. After all, truthers will tell you that what they have is the opposite of faith in authority. And you are the one with too much faith in government.
     
  25. Kokomojojo

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    btw when you gonna correct the mistakes you made trying to explain the light pole mower strength et al?

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    stop dodging the question.

    so WHAT difference does it make?






    So lets add another question for you to dodge since your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash anyway.


    so lets say its true that your pumpkin really can penetrate both sides of a boat, then why cant this bullet even go through a standard everyday windshield?

    Maybe its just not trying hard enough?


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    there another one for you to dodge.



    meanwhile you continue to believe a plane is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing light pole mower



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    despite what we know for a fact is reality

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    real planes, when engines and wings get hit they burst into flames!

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