"Can My Children Be Friends With White People?"

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I found the below piece quite troubling as someone who doesn't live in the US. Are these views common? Surely this does more harm than good.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/11/opinion/sunday/interracial-friendship-donald-trump.html

    Tucker Carlson interview him and during the interview the guy said that "it is deeply suspicious that people are so quick to say that the main threat facing African Americans is other African Americans but we don't hear people say that the main threat to white people is white people." He says that the phrase "white on white violence" doesn't exist. It occurred to me that it doesn't exist because it doesn't need to exist. White people aren't going around saying that the biggest threat to them is black people. If they were, then of course people would say that it is bullshit because the biggest threat to white people is white people!
    It occurs to me that the phrase, "black on black violence" is only used so much because it is rightly used as a defense to the common myth that white people are the biggest threat to black people. He then goes on to make an argument involving Tucker teaching his daughters to be careful around boys, in a hilarious and pathetic display of sophism!


     
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    I agree with this guy on one basic point: As a white person, I learned the hard way over the years that it's really not possible to be friends with black people as so many of them expect ideological compliance from whites to get along. That means we take blame for everything, agree there is a huge white conspiracy to keep a brother down, throw away any semblance of pride in our heritage, assume every accusation of racism against white people is valid on face value, believe every Afrocentrist revisionist piece of bullshit you hear, go along with denials of high black crime rates and to agree every piece of information that makes black people look bad is a big white lie, and of course to nod in agreement or at least be sheepishly silent on the many occasions when sitting at a lunch table with black people while being peppered in complaints and blame about white people and how nasty we are.

    I found it intolerable and ceased socializing with blacks at work years ago.
     
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    I wouldn't say his views are that common, at least as expressed here. Remember, this guy is American with apparently a made up African name. If you run into an African American (defined here as descended from slaves brought to the US) with an African name, then you already know he's probably of the kill whitey type. People don't change their names for political purposes because they're moderates.

    And yes, I would say it's harmful and shame on the New York Times for running this race baiting trash, but that's what they do now.
     
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    As a non american, I find too the ambiance around black people association really creepy (asian or white association are as creepy). The way to always mentions if someone is black when he is black is creepy too.
     
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    Middle to lower class blacks tend to be very cohesive in idealogy and community. Several years back, our school system attempted to merge a predominately black school with a smaller predominately white school into a larger facility and it created much anguish for some black parents. They sent their kids to a black school further away, with a history of lower test scores. A matter of priorities.

    The white parents weren't concerned to the extent of pulling their kids out. We have two cultures going on under the same roof....which is creating a lot of racial strife.
     
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    Even funnier that his wife is white.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, couldn't his parents have named him this?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Who, the author of the article? How do you know that?
     
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    Then his parents were radicals.
     
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    He has mentioned it before.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, but theoretically the kids of these parents could become non-radicals.
     
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    Well you read his article so you tell me.
     
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    Well I obviously don't think that this guy is one of them.
     
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    The funny thing is if a white man wrote that article there would be an uproar over it by all types of organizations and the situation would be over dramatized and we'd hear crying about it all over the country. That guy is pathetic and he got free air time to show the world what a moron he really is. He is probably the same type of special that believes in what they call white privilege. o_O
     
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    I think she's half white.
     
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    White privilege is a myth but articles like this in mainstream press prove black privilege exists.
     
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    'It's ok to be white.' = literally Hitler
     
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    Which Half ?
    It is really rather silly to say that.



    Great example
     
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    Really? In this case, he's invalidating his wife's input into the creation of their kids', and their kids' identities. What an @-hole.
     
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    Planet of the Grapeholes ?
     
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    Right, so not the same thing as white. Meantime, does she make the effort to be indifferent to race, as any mixed race person should be?
     
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    Should be ?
    Your only joking, right ?
     
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    No, not in the least. A mixed race person is necessarily 'beyond race', so any pretence to racial allegiance is an invalidation of half of what makes them, them. They are literally neither white, nor black. They are themselves.

    To give you an example .. there is a Star Trek (Next Gen) episode about a transporter accident, in which two characters of different humanoid species are merged. The entire episode hinges upon the question of how they should be returned to the constituent 'parts' (ie, separated). While this is going on, the 'new' hybrid begins to develop agency, and an identity of his own. In the end, a resolution is found which allows him (the hybrid) to continue on, while the original pair are reinstated separately. Two become three, with the third a 'new species', just as in mixed breeding.
     
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    In your opinion.

    Truth is, it is not like that at all, I have never seen any truth to your statements, it is something white people might find of comfort whilst drinking expensive brandy in the white room, still not true.
     
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    How can it 'not be like that at all', when in reality mixed race people are neither one thing or another? If they insist (wrongly) that they are one thing and not the other, they dismiss half of what makes them them, AND they lie.

    Full disclosure, my three children are mixed race. They have no allegiance to either white or black (I am white, my husband is black), and find the idea of such a thing objectionable. They regard it as overt racism.
     

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