Can Republicans Ever Overcome the Overwhelming Liberal Bias of the Media?

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  1. Blackrook

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    The media went all out to save Obama this election cycle.

    They refused to cover Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Benghazi, and the aftermath of Sandy, all so the American people would not learn how incompetent Obama is.

    At the same time, the media amplified every misstatement of Romney and ran 24/7 coverage so that everyone and his brother would find out about it.

    Our Republic cannot function when the overwheming majority of the media is in the pocket of one political party, and totally against the other.

    I suggest reforms in our laws to break the media monopoly over our airwaves.

    There is no reason that a handful of media corporations with a liberal agenda should control vast nationwide networks, to the exclusion of all other points of view.

    I suggest that the CBS, ABC, and NBC monopoly be broken up in anti-trust litigation.

    I suggest that the monopolistic big city newspapers be broken up into smaller newspapers so that more than one point of view can be represented.

    That should be the first order of business the next time Republicans take control over our federal government, assuming that can ever happen.

    Its time to attack big monopolistic media and take it down.
     
  2. RiseAgainst

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    You are a lawyer right blackrook?

    You ane other patriotic lawyers are the bridge between conservatives and fair representation.

    We need you.
     
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    I hope you're not suggesting that we should use the organs of government to intrude in the business of a private enterprise. I suggest instead of running to the government nanny, we all take responsibility for our own actions. We win with better marketing--it's as simple as that. What you need is a superior argument. Oh, and as I've already mentioned: lose the god squad. That one's on me...
     
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    What would you have the lawyers do?
     
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    If the free market system is to operate as it should power cannot be allowed to be concentrated in the hands of the few. The fact that GE who is one of the largest companies in the world has benefited so much from government policies they supported through their subsidiary NBC demonstrates this. Oh and it doesn't even stop there, not only do they often give nothing in return to America they actually take.

    A piece in today's New York Times by David Kocieniewski outlines how G.E. skirted paying any taxes on $5.1 billion in profits in 2010--in addition to claiming a $3.2 billion tax credit.

    The main reason G.E. is so adept at avoiding paying taxes, Kocieniewski writes, is because it's compiled an all-star team of in-house tax professionals plucked from the Internal Revenue Service, the Treasury Department, and "virtually all the tax-writing committees in Congress."


    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/g-e-paid-no-taxes-5-1-billion-20110325-082417-878.html
     
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    GE has proven it is very profitable to get in bed with the Democrats.
     
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    Pursue Obama's agenda of fairness, in this case in the form of representation for conservatives.
     
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    Thomas Edison - one of my personal heroes and one of the founders of GE would be rolling in his grave if he knew what had become of his company. The biggest problem is the lack of new wealth because from Ford to Edison it was these people who cared most about the nation that made it possible for them to gain their wealth and knew how important it was to make sure others could follow in their footsteps or at the very least have enough money to buy their products.
     
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    They made Thomas Edison's lightbulb illegal, you know. (*)(*)(*)(*) liberals.
     
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    I know and those bulbs they are forcing us to buy break all the time. Of course if the alternative was actually better they wouldn't need to ban them now would they? No one banned the horse and cart or any other product that was inferior. Progressive? Terrible name in my opinion. At least in regard to the modern terminology. I would actually like to consider myself liberal. It shouldn't mean what it does today. A liberal should be someone who is open minded and pragmatic. Not someone who is bound by partisan ideology and popular beliefs of their time period.
     
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    Think about what type of people are attracted to careers in writing and journalism... the "creative" types. And by "creative", I don't mean the type that actually creates anything useful.
     
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    I could have sworn I saw a similar thread from you today. Oh well.

    People should be able to report whatever they want. There's no such thing as objectivity, only opinion. I do agree that the media is generally on Obama's side, but then again the Republican Party has its own sections of the establishment in its favor. Do they even each other out? Probably not, but I don't see an overwhelming imbalance in either direction.

    The media is two things that lead it to favor Obama: sensationalistic and tertiary educated. There is no dark room of media elites controlling the world ;)
     
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    Even The Economist, which mostly has a conservative readership, has a covert liberal bias on all the "social issues", including demands for more money to education and praising communist China. Especially damaging since economic policy is so important.
     
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    The economist is interested in maximizing certain economic figures. As far as I can see they don't take that many principled positions on social issues, they're more aimed at productivity and the such.

    The media in general dislikes authoritarian social policies (ie: those held by the Republican Party), because it's the right side of history to be on and readers love a good Orwell reference. Sensationalism and appealing to the demographic is their goal, not bias.
     
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    Oh, it's all the liberal media's fault now? lol

    And so the feeble excuses and rationalisations take their course.
    God forbid one look for the cause of the failure inside the GOP, their candidate or their outdated political philosophy...
     
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    It is always very profitable to get in bed with any politician. Unless you are Monica Lewinsky.
     
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    So you are suggesting legal action to force broadcasters to carry certain kinds of messages?
     
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    We've done it before, many times.

    Remember Hearst?
     
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    When the message is overwhelmingly liberal, yes, it is time for something to change.
     
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    Oh stop.. You don't know anything about GE either.

    They employ 300,000 people in a hundred foreign locations world wide since 1900.
     
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    Charlatan TV evangelists do better in ultra conservative times when fear mongering is a full tilt.
     
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    They are infiltrated by heretics.
     
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    Best way to strike back at the bias of the MSM is to hit them where it hurts - the bottom line.

    First I dismiss print media. It is rapidly going the way of the rotary phone, slide rule, and Kodachrome. Not political - just tecnological and business.

    Most of the MSM is broadcast media, and for the most part comes into American homes by means of cable TV. I'm sure there are some who still pick up TV signal the old fashioned way, but they are very much the monority these days.

    About half the cost of your cable TV bill is content. And that is always "bundled." Even with most basic of packages you pay for a lot of channels you probably never watch. And you the customer pay the cable company who in turn pays the content providers for that content. So, to not put too fine a point on it, everyone with cable TV pays Rachel Madcow and Chris Mathews, like it or not.

    Cable TV stoutly resists a al carte service, so you pay for content you are disgusted by or don't get any at all. OK. So be it. Let's discuss the "...don't get any at all..." option.

    There is very little that cable TV provides that cannot be had over the Internet. This is particularly true of news/opinion. For me the only justification for cable TV is ball games. In general I crave information, not entertainment. The Internet handles that quite nicely. So it is not that big a deal for me to fire the cable and go all Internet. I can go out to my local sports bar and watch Colts games.

    I'm sure everyone's preferences are different, but for me, this options saves me money, and cuts the MSM with their biased news and cultural warfare entertainment shows (every year, the line between broadcast entertainment and pornography gets narrower and narrower) out of my household.

    My actions in no way infringe on your right to watch pro-Obama news and cultural rot. If you pay the freight, have right at it. but roughly 50 million people voted for Romney. If a fifth of them (10 million) go this route (and I think that percentage is quite doable) the cable TV people will be hurt and take notice 10 million subscribers lost will hurt. They'll have to start either offering a la carte content or accept loss of subscribers (and revenue) and they'll demand to pay less for their bundled content. So at very least, I've done the average O-Bot a favor if the cable companies offer a lower rate for the pro-Obama bias and cultural rot the O-Bots would be watching in the first place.

    There is nothing sinister about this. Gandhi and Martin Luther King,Jr. effectively used economic boycotts to achieve their aims. I am in good company. And reducing my expenses never hurts.
     
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    So you'd use a liberal solution to go after what you perceive as a liberal bias? Interesting.

    Then, of course you'd also go after Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, et al., right? I mean if it's "fairness" you're after.

    Now you're going to tell me that tobacco companies are responsible for people smoking. Better go after them too. Oh, wait, the libs already did that too.

    Well, sir, a little advice for you, free of charge: Careful what you wish for.
     

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