Can Republicans run on 2020 in 2024?

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    2020 was a big loser for the Republican Party. Why be mired in it?

    The Cry Baby Loser's clinging to his "Big Lie" after years of impotence in contriving any evidence to justify a legitimate challenge concerning the already thoroughly debunked alleged caper - the mysterious theft of an airy-fairy "landslide!" - is enough. His lowlifes threatening office holders and poll workers of integrity had been enough. His goons' attack on Congress had been more than enough.

    Discredited tales of lurid intrigue and stale petty, personal vendettas are increasingly smelling overripe, not fit to be served up to the American voter yet again.

    The GOP might do well to ignore the Cry Baby Loser's grievance jamborees for disgruntled losers, and form a coherent platform that does not depend upon crackpot fantasies of a "big, beautiful wall!" paid for by Mexico, a "something terrific" 'ObamaCare' replacement that "cover everybody!" at "less cost," an immigration policy that discriminates by race and religion, and, rather, hype their authoritarian agenda - Big Government arrogating to politicians and bureaucrats control of wombs, education, private enterprise, public health, climatology, etc. with a mega-dose of voter suppression.

    If that is truly what Americans crave, truth in advertising is their best strategy, not maintaining a death grip on the delusions of yesteryear.

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  2. Independent4ever

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    Republicans can run on 1/20/21-election day which as of today would give them a landslide

    That is reality.
     
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    No. Republicans already live in the past too much as it is
     
  4. Natty Bumpo

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    They should certainly not run on November 3, 2020, January 6, 2021, or the Big Lie of the Cry Baby Loser.

    Even if they hype their increasingly authoritarian, big intrusive government proclivities, it is preferable to the whining Cry Baby Loser persisting in playing his tired old victim card.
     
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    You play to your strengths. Right now are House and Senate seats, which are necessary to force Biden’s resignation if he doesn’t take the hint. Beyond that the campaign for 2024 will be on the front burner.
    My prediction is we will be in a recession first quarter ‘23 due to rising interest rates to fight inflation.
     
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    Great Call, Natty.
    Here is my favorite version (from a Theater Company in Denmark):
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    The Kid Rock/Ted Nugent cover at the NRC convention will bring tears to your eyes.
     
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    Destined to be the New National Anthem...
     
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    Big loser? The Republicans picked up 13 seats in the House.
     
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    The French just rejected the fascists. Let's hope it's a trend.
     
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    The GOP claims the vote was fake.
     
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    Focusing on it too much will discourage voting. Not focusing on it enough will invoke the ire of lunatics like Trump and base. It isn't a winning strategy, but neither is ignoring it.
     
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    The Rs will run on stupid Xoe. How he’s f’ed up the this country. How no one, even his own peeps don’t want him. And the progressive agenda the left keeps pushing.
     
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    2020 was a loser for the GOP at the presidential level. But down ballot, the Republicans did pretty good in gaining 13 house seats, a governorship and 2 state legislatures. I’d call that a mixed bag. Lots of ticket splitters voting against Trump, then voting Republican down ballot. Although everyone pays attention to the presidential and tends to ignore the down ballot offices. Therefore, I call 2020 an anti-Trump election, no more, no less. It wasn’t a pro-Democratic Party election, that’s for sure. Biden became the first president since 1884 to win the popular vote via the presidency and lose House seats. Biden won by 7 million plus votes, yet his party lost 13 seats in the House. Grover Cleveland in 1884 is the only other president to win the popular vote on his way to presidency who lost house seats. He lost 8 but won the popular vote by a mere 58,000 votes. 2020, anti-Trump, but not pro-Biden nor pro-Democratic Party. Usually if a candidate wins the popular vote by 7 million, one expects a pickup of 25-30 or more seats in the house.


    Enough of that. I think the GOP needs to rid themselves of Trump for 2024. Independents don’t like him, independents decide elections. One needs to remember the Republican Party is still the smaller of the two major parties. Lose the independent vote, the GOP loses the election. It’s time for the GOP to move on past 2020 and past Trump in my opinion or they’re in for a rude awakening in 2024. 2018 and 2020 should have already served as their wake up call on how Trump fares with independents. In 2018 independents voted for Democratic congressional candidates 54-42 mainly because they disliked Trump, not necessarily his policies, but the man himself. In 2020 independents repeated that vote, 54-41 Biden over Trump. Oh well, perhaps the GOP will never wake up.
     
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    The presidential election was rigged.
     
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    There is as much evidence that this is true as there is evidence that Sasquatch did it. The facts don't care about your feelings.
     
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    The Pa supreme court extended the mail in ballot deadline in Pa, contrary to Pa law. That's unconstitutional and it's a fact that it happened.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/17/pennsylvania-mail-ballot-deadline-extended-417044

    The court can't change law.

    The Pa supreme court also ruled that unsigned ballots, or ballots with the wrong signature couldn't be rejected.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...ossed-out-over-voter-signature-court-n1244585

    That sounds pretty rigged, to me. Does it sound rigged to you?
     
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    Yes it does. But I've yet to see any solid evidence that all of the election irregularities combined added up to Trump being cheated out of victory.
     
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    Not really. Even if that were ruled illegal and all said votes were disqualified (still waiting on the evidence of that . . . when can we expect it?) it still wouldn't change the results of the election.
     
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    Republicans gained 14 house seats in 2020. Also Perdue beat Ossoff 49.7% vs 47.9% in the November vote but because Georgia requires 50% they had a runoff in January and too many stupid conservatives listened to Lynn wood and Sidney Powell and stayed home Ossoff won.

    I'm not sure gaining 14 house seats is a big loser.
     
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    So much was unjust in the 2020 election. Bringing that up will help for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the hope that news that our legacy corporate media lied their asses off in an apparent "coordinated malevolent effort to elect Joe Biden". So when the fake media starts lying again, maybe far fewer people will vote for those that would turn the US into an authoritarian province of China.
    Just today:
    https://rumble.com/v12b2mf-joe-bide...-at-the-white-house-wikipedia-deletes-ro.html
     
  22. Natty Bumpo

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    I have edited your insightful post to focus upon the irrationality:

    In a party dominated by the RINOs of Trumpery since 2016, Trump loses decisively, whilst down-ballot Republicans do fairly well despite Trump leading the ticket.

    The Party's reaction: Rally behind the Loser, parrot his irrational denials, and direct vendettas at traditional conservative Republicans who refuse to kowtow to the Loser and his self-serving lies that devalue American democracy.

    The men who formed the nation as one not of men but of laws would be puzzled by the rise of this manikin among men, contemptuous of law and order when law and order does not pander to his demands.

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    In the Trumped GOP,
    NOTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE FAILURE.
     
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    How and by whom, specifically?

    (Provide credible empirical data, please, not airy-fairy notions.)
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    The court doesn't have the power to change election laws. That's an irrefutable fact. So yes, these decisions were illegal.
     
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    You don't think they cover ed up as much as possible? The people who did the rigging are the ones investigating the rigging.
     
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