Can someone point me to a Free Market Healthcare System that works?

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  1. Vegas giants

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    Its about time you guys accept that your nonsense of a free market system will never happen. It is ridiculous
     
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    Except in healthcare which should be obvious by now
     
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    Just your ignorant posts
     
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    ill take that as a concession that you have nothing to the contrary to oppose my viewpoint. In a debate, both sides present their beliefs and back them up. Feel free to reply if you want to continue speaking to yourself regarding your opinion of the validity of my opinion.
     
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    Yes, it is my decision. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. Those that think like you are the enemy of Liberty and the people.
     
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    You seem to assume that the limitations to a UHC are non-existent. Look around and you will see that they too are limited as you end up running out of other peoples money eventually.
     
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    Congratulations, you have just explained from whom the private health providers extract their sizable profits from. Obviously not from the sick, they have to pay out.

    Now ask yourself where does the money come from to care for the sick? That’s right from your inflated insurance premiums. Private insurance companies don’t pay health care for the sick. You do.
     
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    The problem for Trump and the Republicans in Congress is the CREDIBILITY thing: DWYSYWD.

    This is how credibility works:

    “We asked people to define *credibility* in behavioral terms, to tell us the behavioral evidence they would use to judge whether or not a leader was believable. The most frequent response was they do what they say they will do”. … This simple definition leads to a simple prescription for strengthening credibility: DWYSYWD — Do what you say you will do. DWYSYWD has two essential parts: the first is “say” and the second is “do”.” Credibility is mostly about consistency between words and deeds. People listen to the words and look at the deeds. Then they measure the congruence. A judgement of “credible” is handed down when the two are consonant.” Credibility, How Leaders Gain and Lose It, Why People Demand It, James M. Kouzes, Barry Z. Posner, Josse-Bass publishers, San Francisco, 1993.p. 47.

    Of course, the GOP has very little credibility left to lose. But Trump's base still believes he means it. Without that credibility Trump is just another disappointing Republican President.
     
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    The UK's NHS is over 65 years old. Your scare tactic is not working
     
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    just another ignorant post. the decisions are made by elected representatives. time to learn up.
     
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    conversations with people that make up stuff are pointless.
     
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    Wow....sounds like an opinion piece. Notice that they will never get rid of it. Even Iron Maggie could not do that. It is loved too much
     
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    Assumes extremist alt right factoids NOT in evidence.

    Prior to the ACA the private sector was so inefficient it had an overhead of 30% compared to Medicare with an overhead of 2%. From a patient perspective only getting 70 cents out of every dollar of premium in the private sector was abysmal compared to receiving 98 cents out of every dollar for Medicare.

    https://newint.org/features/2015/12/01/private-public-sector/

     
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    It is only ridiculous if one believes that government should make all your choices for you.
     
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    The people elect those representatives. It all comes back to the people.
     
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    Not all of them. Just some of them. Healthcare is one.
     
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    The ACA is a colossal mess. That's why Democrats are no longer in power. Your propaganda doesn't line up with reality.
     
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    The system was bloated and wasteful because of defensive medicine done to prevent lawsuits and government rules and regulations that meant that any organization of more that 49 workers had a department dedicated entirely to shifting paper work for the government. We have not had a true free market in insurance and health care since the late sixties.
     
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    So you embrace slavery?
     
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    With arms wide open
     
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    A supporter of illegal immigration as well I see. Good for you. Now, own that plantation mentality. Own it I say.
     
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    In place of the black and Latino minorities, If they were Caucasian would that make a difference to you?
     
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    Free market driven health care, does it work? Depends on what your definition of work is. Does it grant health care to all? No. But is that the evaluation of it's effectiveness? Of course not. Health care is a personal responsibility. The use of social aggregation simply transfers the cost to others for those who consume the most of it. If this were burning fossil fuels, liberals would be demanding taxation for consumption. And yet, here we are, liberals demanding that consumption doesn't matter, and that restriction of consumption is immoral. It's so much fun to watch.
     
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    Why do you support genocide....I mean since we are making things up. LOL
     

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