Can the Abbott government survive?

I'm reading this morning's Fairfax press and there seems to be a bit of a theme that Abbott's mea culpa will do him some good. I'm not sure. I think we've labelled him a liar and his government mendacious and vicious. But hell that's my own prejudice showing!

So, do you think the Abbott government will survive the next just under two years and an election campaign?

 

No mate,
he won't survive and he shouldn't.

But will next Labor be any better? I doubt it, I cannot see important changes on the horizon.

We need something new, a new direction, a new party.

Libs and Labor are both from the past, and are unable or unwilling to steer our country into a sustainable positive future .....

Cheerio

 

I nearly cried, it was so touching, he must have a new coach

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I agree totally, something new, a new direction, a new ideology, a new system, definitely a new party.

 

I think the LNP will win the next election, Labor are offering no alternative. As for the rest of what you say, I agree. Perhaps not another Party but certainly a new group of people with a better ideaology.
One thing I would like to see is a government committed to turning around the entrenched public service drive to introduce more and more regulations. We need a government to start recinding regulation and reduce government interference in our lives. The tax department also needs to be reined in and our tax laws reduced and simplified. Employees, that is most Australians, do not realise the amount and the complexity of tax law that business is burdened with. WHS is another organisation that needs some reining in and regulations turned around.

 

I would like to see him dethroned and I do think that happen just yet. Watch what is going to happen in the QLD election because the LNP here are about to take a battering, After that there will be more recriminations of the federal LNP and we will probably see Tonee taking a fall
As for overturning the Federal government - Labor is not organised enough for that to happen

 

I agree. The LNP will do a Switch-A-Rooney like the ALP did with Rudd & Gillard, and will get elected for another 3 years. Yes, the ALP is offering nothing, but what can they offer, when there is NOTHING left to offer.

If the people are not feed up with these lying clowns by now, then they deserve what they get.

 

I can see a fight between Turnbull and Bishop for Abbotts job.

 

This is my opinion and I have also heard this shared. I reckon the knives will come out and Abbott will be deposed, he's the loose cannon in LNP. He'll take a few with him, hardliners like Hockey, Brandis, Abetz etc. Pyne is a shot duck and doubtful of re-election.

The only problem I see is, how much damage will this government do nationally and internationally in the next 12 months.

 

I'm not sure if Turnbull will stick his neck out for leadership, considering what happened before. Unless the shadows behind the LNP offer Turnbull some massive financial incentives - Turnbull is attracted to money. I don't think they will risk Bishop being another woman, as they know there is still a lot of hostility and animosity in the general public over Gillard, and there is a fair percentage of people who will not vote for another woman to be PM.

Pyne is a big-mouth runt, that should have had a muzzle put on him from day one. He has done a lot of damage to his party by alienating people with his big-mouth and condescending opinions.

I think they need to go fresh, with no links to the old party brigade. Just like Rudd showed up with all new faces, and NO links to the Beasley/Hawke/Keating era.

 

The guy is a goose. He knew all along that the budget had to be stretched to sustain Australia's economy in the long term. It was also stated all along that if this guy tried Howard's tricks he would come undone. Howard had inherited a world economy on the up and a national economy already head and shoulders above the rest. Howard could afford to become the highest taxing government without a vision for the future, along with being able to neglect public infrastructure because personally everyone was doing mighty fine. Abbott inherited a world economy on the down, with a nationally economy head and shoulders above the rest "still", however people will certainly feel any rise in tax and will see lack of vision for the future. The circumstances are different to his predecessor therefore will find it extremely hard to pull the wool over peoples eyes. It is safe to say he is seen as a lying conniving lunatic who seems well out of his depths.

He louds removing the carbon tax as his biggest feat while in government while the rest of the world moves towards it or the end product being an ETS. The move will no doubt foolishly put us back billions upon billions of dollars because of his political game playing and need for personal little victories. His politics was certainly about gaining power and staying in power without any thought for putting Australia first.

 

TV,
spot on, very well said,
regards

 

What vision does the ALP have for Australia?

I don't hear about them announcing any new plans to build or buy anything for Australia, whereby they can gain tax revenue from it.

 

http://www.alp.org.au/

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Nothing mentioned in there about plans to build or buy anything for the Australians people so tax revenue can be raised?

Same circus - different clowns.

 

Hopefully he doesn't survive. He's going to ruin us.

 

As opposed to:


an economy built on mining resources and which is dependent on the price of those resources on world markets


focusing on the mining states and letting the others fall by the wayside


sticking with fossil fuels to protect vested interests


paying wealthy women to have children


returning the aged to the tender care of the party which gave us Kerosene Bronnie


putting money into priests training and forcing students to pay huge amounts of money for a degree


dismantling Medicare, forcing a payment for the GP and introducing privatisation and the treatment of health care as a marketable commodity


dismantling the NDIS


ensuring government is under the control of the wealthy


buying useless subs from Japan

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The ideology and indebtedness to the corporates is bad enough but chuck sheer incompetence into the mix and it looks scary.

 

A more appropriate question would be.

Can we survive the Abbott Government

 

Fair enough, you have voiced some valid issues. But what is the ALP's solution to generate REAL tax's and REAL revenue that is going to be needed to support the increasing public sectors?

They cannot just keep increasing taxes on business and citizen forever to pay the costs. What is THEIR strategy in building more tax revenue bases to cover all the associated public sector costs that are increasing daily?

They don't have any, so my philosophy stands unchallenged. " The ALP are the Same circus as the LNP, but different clowns."

 

Once again you have fallen for the oldest political trick in the book. The ALP want everyone to believe they are little old grandmothers giving everyone flowers and chocolates, and the mean LNP is doing all the nasty stuff to people. Their ruse seems to be working, because everyone seems to have forgotten just how bad and incompetent the ALP were in wasting and squandering our tax money on dud schemes and programs just a few years ago, and now some people are looking at them as being their saviors.

FFS, this is how the merry-go-round of these 2 incompetent political parties has been working for the past century.These clowns hang around in the back of the circus knowing the stupid people will vote them back into political power even after they have previously committed numerous incompetent, lying, deceitful acts and behaviour.

I really think some of you people need to research "The Stockholm Syndrome" because you are definitely victims when it comes to politicians and political parties.

 

I have to admit I don't know. I will be very interested to see their policy statements as we get closer to the next federal election though.

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We suffer from second-rate politicians for sure. My problem with Labor as a party is that it's too incestuous. Even if new blood manages to get in past the vested interests they get co-opted. I have to vote best of a bad bunch, that's all there is to it.

 

Now you are beginning to see the light of day. The ALP have NO new strategies that will increase the tax revenue base. Before the next election, the ALP will announce they are chucking money around to build some more new schools and hospitals. But how will that strategy generate any new tax bases, besides generating more income tax from the citizens salaries to cover our public sector costs?

The simple truth of the matter is. These clowns privatised and sold ALL of our major tax revenue raising companies and businesses that once helped support the costs of our public systems, and the only alternative left to fund our increasing public systems is to tax the citizens salaries, and increase citizens, so they have more salaries to tax.

Yes, we suffer for second rate politicians and political parties, but WHY do you feel you need to vote for a BAD bunch of politicians or political parties, when you have other alternatives? With all due respect, that just seems like a cop-out to me.

In our recent Victorian State election, I voted for NONE of them. I had my name crossed of the role, and put all the paper in the recycling bin as I walked out the door.

Why would I want to sacrifice my own morals, ethics and principal by voting for a bunch of lying; deceitful corrupt clowns that have no interest in making our community a better place to live for everyone - just themselves.

 

I think Diuretic said it best, we have to make a choice, or do what you did, which means we really are leaving it to others to make the decision, which in my honest opinion, does not allow you the right to critisize the government.

We have to choose who is the best of a bad bunch, or get in and do something ourselves. I look at it from a harm minimisation perspective, who will do the least harm to my country.

Abbotts obsession with the boats, the debt and this stupid parental leave scheme, his absolute arogance, even when he admits he is wrong he won't admit he's wrong, he is just the most dead arrogant man I have ever seen.His interview with Carl proved that.

It's like climate change, I don't know whether it is a God's honour fact, no one does. I do know this though, if they are right we need to do something about it, and if they are wrong, well except for a few dollars, and the carbon tax was only a few dollars, it was ramped up by Tony as something catastrophic, would spell doom for Austrlaia, cause cities to disappear, all very emotional, all very scary, all total Bu11sh1t.

If I have to go down fighting, it will be with the Greens as number one, Labor as number two, because if they get it wrong at least we will have tried and the damage would be minimal, but if the coalition get it wrong, we are doomed.

 

For a country to financially survive it must produce, to produce at the cheapest cost requires the cheapest energy, which cannot be had by burning Coal to heat water to frantic temperatures for little electricity output when three hundred times the output is available without Coal and Lakes of drinking water!

LNP Labour and Greens share a common agenda, do not diminish Coal burning and drying up lakes of drinking water, no matter what it costs Australia, for to do so would invoke a Coal advertising campaign contra to Politicians seeking election..

 

At least when I'm standing there naked and alone and asked the question. Why did you vote for someone YOU knew was a liar; deceitful and corrupt? I can answer honestly, and say I didn't.

Somehow I get this strange feeling that making up bullsh1t excuses in the face of honesty and truth is not going to cut it.

 

Oh, so who did I vote for?