Can vitamin D save lives?

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Can vitamin D save lives during this Covid 19 pandemic?

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I admit that I am biased....
    but my belief is that YES.....
    taking vitamin D3 supplements, especially during the winter months, can actually save many lives during this Covid 19 pandemic.

    I also take zinc, highly absorbable vitamin C and MSM....
    and I haven't had a cold in about a year and a half....




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  2. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is some more information on this idea from Israel....


    Vitamin D in Israel
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    I believe vitamin D and zinc is considered helpful. Been hearing it from local doctors being interviewed.

    However I also am hearing that the best vitamin d comes from being in the Sun...as your body processes it as more utilized and beneficial then just supplements.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Good points......
    something that has me personally scratching my head is why this Covid 19 virus has spread so quickly in Ecuador and all of South America????

    I taught English in Quito, Ecuador for over a year, (even at Universidad Technologica de Israel de Quito) , ...... and I would have thought that
    all the sunlight that people in Ecuador get would tend to give them an immune system that would tend to be highly resistant to Covid 19 or any other virus for that matter????????
     
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    Dennis, I had Covid before we knew what was making us all sick. In Dec of 2019 the So Cal ER's and urgent care clinics were standing room only. I fought it off without being hospitalized but it was bad. I had one of the variants about 3 months ago, it was no worse than my every springtime allergies. Anti-bodies testing proved it was Covid. Now here the kicker, I am 64 years old and have bad liver problems and stage 3 kidney failure. I had those problems in Dec of 2019. Breathing was difficult but not life threatening. I attribute that to never smoking. I still have had no vaccinations and here I am. This is why I won't.........

    It's like playing Russian roulette taking vaccines with no long term study's for side effects. The Pharmaceutical Companies have a free pass too. If something shows up in the future, you can't sue them. The have immunity. How nice.

    I was hospitalized after a very bad truck accident. The hospital administered a relatively new drug in large doses, being approved by the FDA it should have been safe. 5 years later the FDA issued a black box warning as it caused a lot of people to have their tendons become brittle. Mine did. What will the vaccinated do 5 or even 10 years from now if some nasty side effects show up?
     
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    Are they overweight? Is there a lot of undiagnosed diabetes? Do they do far too little exercise? Do they tend to spend a lot of time indoors?
     
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    Ecuadorians tend to NOT be overweight.....
    they tend to be amazingly active and tend to play soccer and volleyball and other sports pretty much twelve months of the year......

    At the little Christian school where I taught English first.....the kids had a great time scoring goals on the
    "missionary from Canada" because they knew the Spanish translation for the word that I said after each goal against me... because they always wanted me in the net... ...... if I remember correctly it may have been "mierda" .... pardon my spelling.......



    Would you say that there is validity to the theory that the Covid 19 virus is going through a common series of stages that lead to it becoming much more easily transmitted.... .but it is much less deadly now?



    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/is-the-covid-19-pandemic-likely-over.595750/


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    I just saw this pdf on another discussion here.....


    https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202003.0235/v2
     
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    You're right, and so the trouble becomes that during the winter months in the northern hemisphere, those living above about 35 degrees north do not get direct sunlight. The same thing happens in the southern hemisphere.

    That's why we've always lived with "flu and cold seasons". Those living in those regions should supplement with Vitamin D. For others in the south, we can get the sunlight year around.
     
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    Vitamin D Status and SARS-CoV-2 Infection and COVID-19 Clinical Outcomes. Front Public Health. 2021 Dec 22;9:736665. doi: 10.3389/fpubh.2021.736665. PMID: 35004568; PMCID: PMC8727532.

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    • The aim of the present meta-analysis was to investigate whether vitamin D status is associated with the COVID-19 severity, defined as ARDS requiring admission to intensive care unit (ICU) or mortality (primary endpoints) and with the susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19-related hospitalization (secondary endpoints).

    • Methods: A search in PubMed, ScienceDirect, Web of Science, Google Scholar, Scopus, and preprints repositories was performed until March 31th 2021 to identify all original observational studies reporting association measures, or enough data to calculate them, between Vitamin D status (insufficiency <75, deficiency <50, or severe deficiency <25 nmol/L) and risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection, COVID-19 hospitalization, ICU admission, or death during COVID-19 hospitalization.

    • Fifty-four studies (49 as fully-printed and 5 as pre-print publications) were included for a total of 1,403,715 individuals.

    • The association between vitamin D status and SARS-CoV2 infection, COVID-19 related hospitalization, COVID-19 related ICU admission, and COVID-19 related mortality was reported in 17, 9, 27, and 35 studies, respectively.

    • Severe deficiency, deficiency and insufficiency of vitamin D were all associated with ICU admission SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalization.

    • Considering specific subgroups (i.e., Caucasian patients, high quality studies, and studies reporting adjusted association estimates) the results of primary endpoints did not change.

    • Interpretations: Patients with low vitamin D levels present an increased risk of ARDS (COVID-19 severity) requiring admission to intensive care unit (ICU) or mortality due to SARS-CoV-2 infection and a higher susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 infection and related hospitalization.
     
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    not sure if ill help with covid or not, but I take a Liposomal Vitamin D3 with K2 combo

    I also got the vaccine
     
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    I take vitamin D. Not as a Covid preventative though.
     
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    I do too, everyday at the beach :)
     
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    Thank you for this truly helpful and encouraging comment!!!!

    Apparently I must have had the Omicron variation of Covid 19 last weekend and it was only slightly worse than the last cold that I had about a year and a half ago!!!

    If that was indeed Omicron...... (two members of my household tested positive).....
    then the vaccines and even the masks will soon be a thing of the past!!!???

    I have to admit though... that my taking D3, zinc, absorbable C and two thousand to five thousand moms of MSM daily, probably had my immune system far better prepared than the average person has been????
     
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    Way to go........

    I get nearly forty hours of sun each week at work.
     
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    I believe millions would be alive today if they had been Vit D sufficient. Millions are
    deficient long before covid struck.
     
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    It certainly can effectively boost your immune system. Depends on what form you take it, for me, it's liquid sunshine.
     
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    I shudder to think that prior to 2006, I never heard of the Vit D deficiency issue and can only imagine
    how many were deficient, got a lot of health problems, depression, and even died due to being so
    deficient. I know my folks were, they were no way sun people and Vit D was not a subject we
    were informed on.

    My sister, bless her heart, told me about the Vit D issue and she was struggling with MS and is
    now gone. Many with MS are Vit D deficient.

    I was a sun person into my later 50's and then got to a point that I could not tolerate it like
    when I was young and then the cancer scare..... that's when I tested and found how
    deficient I was, got on supplmenets pronto...
     
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