YOU are discussing dog pregnancies in an ABORTION Forum …...that IS comparing women to dogs....but I am NOT surprised at all......
I was trying to examine the particular aspect of how much pro-choicers believe a being does not have rights because it is inside a womb, and separate that out from the reasoning originating from the woman's right to make a decision argument.
Because sapience is a very fluid concept. (I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to. Are you talking about the sapience of a fetus or the sapience of me coming together to make an argument?) Surely you're not implying elderly people with lots of life experiences have more of a right to life than a 2-year-old?
That ( whatever that garbled bunch of words meant) has nothing to do with dogs....YOU brought dogs into the discussion... A fetus has no rights. A woman has the right to choose abortion or gestation. Those are two different things..
Only as an analogy to try to only focus in on one particular aspect of your argument. Sorry, I'm a little bit tired and guess I wasn't able to phrase things together as articulately as I would have liked.
The content of your posts Lack of academic nomenclature Lack of citation Lack of critical analysis Do you REALLY want me to go on? That the family may be making an unethical decision[/QUOTE]
By your definition/opinion I have zero medical knowledge.....I can live with that. Did you say a family cannot make an unethical decision.
And yet you feel you have the right to make decisions in complex medical issues And no what I am saying is that it takes knowledge of the entire circumstances to make informed decisions in theses cases All too many so called pro lifers base knowledge of abortion on myths perpetrated by vested interests Myths such as Abortion is used as contraception Some women will have an abortion the day before a baby is born just so they can fit into a swimming suit Women having abortions are too lazy to take contraception And my favourite Women should just keep thier legs together
Thank you Mr. Obvious. Family members have a right to make decisions in complex medical issues and I am a family member.
I just find it so ironic that [some] pro-choicers believe family members should have the right to make decisions. Well guess what? There's one family member you're not considering. (Guess who that is?) So unless you truly believe the fetus is a non-entity, it's just ridiculous and intellectually inconsistent to claim that fetus has no rights, just because it is inside a womb, dependent on the woman, etc. At most you could say that the woman's rights (if she's capable of making the decision) outweigh the rights of the fetus inside her. But in medical cases where the woman can't provide her input, or is no longer present in mind (brain death), you have to consider the interests of the fetus, if you would consider the input of the other family members.
The fetus doesn’t have any interests. That’s what you can’t seem to wrap your head around. The fetus has no rights because it’s not a person. If the mother can’t make the decision because they are brain dead, then the family should make the decision based on what she would have wanted.