Can we have a civil, thoughtful discussion on this?

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Socialism, a definition: Any economic or political system based on government ownership and control of important businesses and methods of production

    For socialism to happen in this world it would take a minor miracle. The only truly socialist country left on Earth is North Korea - and without China's teat to suck upon, it would wither overnight.

    Get you language right, will you ... ?!?
     
  2. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Not really. It's the fact. Offering someone a job isn't exploitation.
     
  3. Longshot

    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    Take it up with @Kode. I was referring to his definition.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No thanks, I'll take it up with the person who DID NOT QUOTE THE PERSON TO WHOM HE WAS RESPONDING. (To do so, one hits the Quote-option, btw, not just the Reply-option)

    That would be you ...
     
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    Longshot Well-Known Member

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    I think you're mistaken. Link please?
     
  6. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Basic error, bogusly assuming that the economic spectrum can be used to refer to socialist political economy. Tut tut!
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    Precisely, which why I'm an anarchist. Your socialist statist utopian vision is no better than a capiltalist statist utopian vision. You fail to recognize the the common factor in their failures is the state.
     
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  8. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Never been a fan of right wingers pretending to be anarchists. Seems a little weird!
     
  9. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    "Offering"?? That's not what you said.
     
  10. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    --Which is why you will never see any progress toward your goal.
     
  11. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That you'd even think he was really an anarchist shows your blinkered approach...
     
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    TedintheShed Banned

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    ...except the Freedom Movement is the fastest growing movement in the United States, so there's that.

    I'd at least respect you some what if you were an an-com or even an anarcho-syndicalist but all you are doing is regurgitating old, failed ideas. You fail to recognize the common factor in all failed societies.
     
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    james M Banned

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    liberalism??
     
  14. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    I like the 'Freedom of Movement' movement, but I believe that isn't what the right winger is purring over.
     
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    james M Banned

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    freedom movement is communist. They imagine a world without the state wherein everyone just loves one another.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Let's add that to your list of stupidity
     
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    james M Banned

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    of course if stupid you would not be so afraid to say why. What do you learn from your fear?
     
  18. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    I referred to the 'Freedom of Movement' and you ranted about communism. You don't think that is stupid? Have a think!
     
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    Freedom Movement is communist anarchist
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    I referred to Freedom of Movement! How you see the Freedom Movement isn't interesting, given you call liberals communist.
     
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    in the end you figure you're best at nonsense?? why not make your case about libcommieism if you still have any faith in it after your dose of new world superiority!!
     
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    Sorry, but anyone that confuses liberalism and communism isn't in the market for reasoned debate.
     
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    Hilary is a liberal Bernie is a communist they are in same party and endorse each other. You are confused not them. 1+1=2. Do you want to be stuck in the old world rut all your life?

    Thomas is not confused you are !!!
    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
     
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    I already know that you're ignorant of differences in ideologies. Can't you focus on something you know more about?
     
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    read "Useful Idiots" if you want the complete list of liberal communists.
     

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