Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    I know you like the Bible where women must be subservient, So conservative. It’s amazing how conservatives like to quote the Bible as they watch these poor immigrant children being pulled away from their parents
     
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    I can’t, because I cant be indifferent to human suffering
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    ...Unless you are the cause of it...then you're fine with it.
     
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    OK, the discord among the G7 is between Trump and the other six ( a Trump official described Trudeau as "worthy of a special place in Hell", but Trudeau was then almost immediately praised - by a European rep. - as having "a place in Heaven reserved for him".

    Not sure of your definition of discord.

    Meantime China has joined the fray by retaliating against Trump's tariffs on China with $35 billion of tariffs against the US..... my point is the current neoliberal free-trade system has passed its use-by date.

    Speaking of discord, I wonder how it is in the Trump household at present, with Melania stating her concerns (re forced separation of children from their parents) that the Law ought to be influenced by the Heart....
     
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  5. Jason Fessenden

    Jason Fessenden Banned

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    You read into things what you want to see. Christian women are treated better than all other women. We don't expect our women to be slaves to their pill box. Had you read the entire NT you would see how husbands are instructed to treat their wives well. But a bigot never learns and always looking for more ammo to justify bigotry.
     
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    The idea that a liberal can remain unrepentant and wage war against God and all His faithful and somehow still be saved is most definitely a man made belief that has no actual basis in Scripture. One has to deviate very far from Scripture to believe liberals can be saved. I mean, all who repent and follow Christ are saved and it doesn't matter what color a person is or what annual income s/he makes. But waging war against God is not gonna save our soul. Being a liberal is about waging war against God. It is rebellion against God. Some liberals better read their Bibles before coming up with these ideas that those who persecute God's faithful will be saved. And that's what liberals do: they persecute Christians and even side with Hamas over Israel. Liberalism has become a mania to the mind and nobody in their right mind is gonna associate the actions of liberals with the love of Jesus Christ.
     
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    Ahh... the cause of human suffering.

    Observation: Life evolved in a jungle, characterised by tooth and claw competition for survival, and predation, in an environment of limited resources, long before Men (species: Homo Sapiens) became aware of the concept of Justice (and God) - an awareness gained through evolution of the most complex organ in the universe (so it is said), namely, the cerebral cortex.

    Mastery of the competition for resources
    , which was ordained by nature from the beginning, in a manner that benefits all, will go a long way to eliminating unnecessary suffering caused by human on human conflict. (Think of the potential of AI +IT).
     
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    BTW, it's likely that scripture is not the Word of God, but it's the word of men in search of God. That's the problem with Hamas - they believe the Koran is the Word of God, and behave accordingly.
     
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    You're missing the point - there are people in the world whose reason for getting up in the morning is to piss in somebody's cornflakes. I am convinced that it's the only reason the left does anything is to annoy those damn Republicans, Christians, and conservatives.
     
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    Actually, awareness of the reality of Justice and God is lost through devolution.
     
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    Hard to piss into a bowl of cornflakes that is already overflowing with the owner's bile.

    Just saying!
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    IRONIC! PUERILE!

    That's why nobody ever needs to piss in yours, you do that yourself.
     
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    :roflol:

    Thanks for proving me right about your overflowing bowl of cornflakes.
     
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    Pissing in one's cereal is done when Democrats start a civil war with conservatives. Right now they have been waging cultural war for a long time. But in the past few years the insanity from liberals has escalated to the most extreme its ever been. Pretty insane to think that liberals can call themselves Christians and set out to wage a war against Christians because they are Christians. I think liberals are emotionally unhinged from reality and live in an alternative universe which is detached and outside the sphere of reality. Its like liberalism has fashioned mania in the mainstream.
     
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    Tell us why, like you, Jesus would equate state-enforced involuntary servitude to Christian charity.
     
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    Good point. But its not Christian charity they desire. They use that as a come-on to trick gullible minds into supporting socialism. All charity in the church is donated willfully. But socialism is robbery as it forces a form of charity that doesn't even help the poor. My church isn't real big but we do our best to reach out to the community and help those in need as much as we possibly can. Liberals can pool all the government money of America, Canada, Germany , France, Britain, Russia and China, and then triple that, and they still do not help the communities as effectively as my church does. Gees, my church is transforming a violent neighborhood with high crime rate into a peaceful neighborhood.
     
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    Of course.
    Out the other side of their mouths they'll scream about the separation of church and state.
    Socialism is involuntary servitude - the antithesis of liberty.
     
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    Poor snowflake...he comes here to start arguments and when he gets them he has the nerve to act offended...
     
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    I don't see any issue of definition of discord.

    Discord is when they fail to agree and where Trump doesn't even have a process by which agreement could be reached.

    Trade war with our allies can't be pitched as NOT discord.


    Trump's tariffs on China were what caused China to be in the "fray", obviously. If anyone thinks there is a better system, they should be negotiating for that while selling it to our allies so we can push forward against the harder nuts to crack. Trump is not doing anything like that.


    There is no law stating that families must be ripped apart. One baby was taken from a NURSING MOTHER!!! Yanking babies is not a legitimate method of trying to force action by Republicans OR Democrats. And, the notion that Dems have been the problem is ludicrous. Republicans have the majority and have done essentially NOTHING to ask for or accept Democratic contribution to legislation.

    Remember the tax bill? Dems hadn't even seen the bill on the day it was voted on! And, they were not allowed to have ANY representation in the room when it was formed.
     
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    I bet You actually believed trump when he blamed the democrats for torturing these poor children. This is your boy’s doing...plain and simple, you are indifferent to this human suffering,,, you’re a conservative
     
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    Conservatives are inherently authoritarian. When it comes to Christianity, they ignore Jesus' messages of peace, forgiveness, and anti-violence and focus instead on fear, control, and punishment.
     
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    "Well-ordered" is a code word for violence. Did Jesus call for violence as a means of maintaining order and promoting His message of peace, forgiveness, and charity?
     
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    I don't accept your premise.

    So, you're opposed to law enforcement?
     
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    Wait...
    You openly want to force people to abide by your version of morality, and THEN you claim someone else is indifferent to human suffering?
    LOLOLOLOLOLOL
     
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    I think everyone should abide my sense of morality and none should abide by yours....ok?
     
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