Can you be spiritual without being religious?

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  1. it's just me

    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    From what I have seen, "spiritual but not religious" is superstition.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    "Gnostic Christian" is an oxymoron.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member

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    Being Spiritual (Feeling there is something more) does not require a deity, in my opinion that can actually eliminate exploration and understanding of spirituality. "Spirituality" seems to be an individual quest to become more than we are and Grow. Spirituality is the search for the meaning of life.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's higher your mind. By higher your mind, I speak of searching a goal in your life, a direction, beyond simply satisfy your instant desire. Stoician, epicurian, philosophical skepticism are examples of that kind of spirituality.
    Stoician searched for ataraxy, abscence of troubles, epicurian too, skepticist seeked for truth.
    All of that are examples of non religious spirituality.

    People doing yoga, meditation can be too examples of non religious spirituality.
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    Um...doesn't everybody do that?
     
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    And it doesn't ask you to tithe to the pockets of the church.
     
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    That suggests you are very young, or perhaps have a vision defect. I have read the works of many who are very spiritual, yet not religious.

    For example, Carlos Castaneda wrote a series of books about spirituality back in the 70's that was most informative. There are many more than his.
     
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    No, I am old, and and was once a follower of paganism myself.

    Aside from that, I know what the definition of "spirituality" is, and it usually points back to some kind of religious discipline.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    My Websters offers 3 definitions for "spiritual" that do not mention religion before it offers #4 "Of or belonging to a church or religion".

    What about yours?
     
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    Much or less.
     
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    I suggest then, you have your vision checked. I consider myself "Spiritual" in that I fully accept I do not know everything and thus seek to learn about life, nature, the Universe and anything else that may assist my growth. I am quite Atheist where manmade Gods are concerned, Agnostic about everything else and open to things not disproven or impossible.
     
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    Wikipedia and Webster's on the internet.
     
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    Or use fear to make you submit to the will of the church.
     
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    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    They are all based on the Abrahamic traditions.

    Yes. I have claimed pushing my apotheosis.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_complex

    In a nutshell. Where your instincts are stored.


    No. There are no supernatural beliefs in Gnostic Christianity.

    My religion is for active intelligent minds. Not brain dead ones.

    Regards
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    Point taken.

    If you can say that you are not your body and mind/consciousness, then you are living a delusion.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirituality
    During late medieval times the meaning broadened to include mental aspects of life, while in modern times the term both spread to other religious traditions[14] and broadened to refer to a wider range of experience, including a range of esoteric traditions.

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    I cannot answer that question because it really makes no sense (sorry). It may help you understand this if I tell you it's like asking "which sunshine are you speaking of?" or "which gravity are you speaking of?".

    The realized mystics, many of which have been well known and well respected Christians, confirmed by their own direct, immediate experience what the bible says:

    John 17:21-23 - "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us"

    1 Corinthians 6:17 "But the person who is united to the Lord becomes one spirit with Him."

    Gal 3:28 - "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

    1 Corinthians 12:11-12 - "But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body ("soma" - the whole; the entirety), being many, are one body: so also is Christ."

    Ephesians 4:4 - "There is one body ("soma" - the whole; the entirety), and one Spirit"

    Colossians 3:11 - "Christ is all, and in all."

    Is that clear?
     
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    Eternity passes in a blink of an eye. Time is irrelevant in the spiritual world. Do you think it would be a curse to be one with an all-encompassing God for eternity. I'm not talking about an old man with a white flowing robes standing at the gates of heaven checking to see whether we have an invitation or not.
     
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    Then you are saying that St. John of the Cross, Meister Eckhart, Dionysius of Alexandria, Gregory of Nyssa, St. Catherine of Siena, St. Catherine of Genoa, Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite, St. Francis of Assisi, Henry Suso, Richard Rolle, Julian of Norwich, St. Teresa of Ávila, Marie of the Incarnation, Sadhu Sundar Singh, Fr. Thomas Keating, Swami Vivekananda, Thich Nhat Hanh, Abhedananda, Muktananda, Ramakrishna, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Prabhavananda, Sivananda, and hundreds more were "living a delusion", not to mention Jesus.

    The whole point of spiritual awakening is in the discovery of what you don't know and isn't apparent, and is even contradicted by worldly experience.
     
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    So you are speaking of God the Holy Spirit? Just looking for clarity.
     
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