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  1. delade

    delade Well-Known Member

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    Is it wise to put confidence in tele communications??

    If i received a phone call with other tele communcated correspondence from the President of Russia, should i listen and follow what those persons on the other end say? Although it may sound exactly like them, should i follow?

    Or if I received a conference call with Mr. Trump and Mr. Putin. What then?

    Do they make such calls with such lack of ambassadorship? Or if ambassadors came, showed me some badges and papers and spoke with an accent, how about then?




    How would i be able to verify such things?

    Call the number that was recorded on caller id list, in recent calls, back?

    If you were interested:

    Russian telephone codes +7 978 for mobile phones and +7 869 for landlines in Sevastopoland +7 365 for landlines in the Republic of Crimea since 7 May 2015.

    Calls from outside RussiaEdit
    +7 ABC xxx-xx-xx
    where ABC is the area code


    www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_Russia

    To call Russia from the U.S., just follow these dialing instructions:
    • First dial 011, the U.S. exit code.
    • Next dial 7, the country code for Russia.
    • Then dial the 3-to 5-digit area code (see sample calling code list below), followed by the 5- to 7-digit phone number.
    Here is a list of some major city area codes and city calling codes:

    RUSSIA AREA CODES
    Moscow 495 or 499
    Saint Petersburg 812
    Novosibirsk 3832
    Nizhny Novgorod 8312
    Samara 8462
    Omsk 3812
    Kazan 8432
    Ufa 3472
    Chelyabinsk 3512
    Rostov 48536

    https://blog.vonage.com/international-calling/how-to-call-russia-from-the-us/

    Don't forget, your children could be at risk, too.

    Definitely might be some foreigners feigning diplomatic authorization.

    My suggestion?

    Call the local Military Headquarters.

    Feigning to be Mr. Trump or Mr. Putin and giving political orders is a breach of National Security.

    Local Military Headquarters or Federal F.B.I

    STAT..

    WHAT DOES THE MEDICAL TERM “STAT” MEAN?



    Question: What does the medical term “stat” mean?

    Answer: Stat, used as a directive to medical personnel during in an emergency situation, is from the Latin word statim, which means “instantly” or “immediately.”

    https://www.almanac.com/fact/what-does-the-medical-term-stat-meanr
     
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  2. delade

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    And if Military choppers and Military aircrafts and land vehicles, such as unmarked police cars with roof top sirens, are being sent out from their bases, then something might be going on.

    But if city and county or State ofgicials know of duch strage correspindences with other Nation's leaders, would it be good to tell the local Military about it, even IF those leaders explicitely gave warnings against doing so?

    Why would other countries be giving such orders, to keep the conversation away from local military authorities?

    They obviously wouldnt have gotten any word themselves from Mr. Trump or Mr. Putin, if this was the scenario.

    And it all started from prank phone callers acting like country leaders....

    The arrivals would be pranskters, not National delegates.

    What to do??

    Background checks? Driver's license checks, registration and safety cards checks, Address checks, Fake id checks?

    Last year of income tax filed, checks? Only if things were getting really strange.
     
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    Science and current scientific advancements towards human kind, such as GMO foods, are Science projects for them as us as the tested upon subjects. They are having fun in Science class.

    It isn't as bad for them as it is for us. After all, they're not doing anything wrong, per se.

    Every generation since the rise of personal joys, had within them those that enjoyed disecting, combining, experimenting. But the only problem is that there were and there are not enough test subjects to accomodate for all their joys.

    So if not experimentation on breathing subjects, then plants. If not plants, then dead corpses. There are people who enjoy experimenting on dead corpses.

    It's all part of the seek and find field of research.

    What they usually end up with is thinking how such beautiful lifes can be stationed in such unfortunate cicumstances.

    That's why many scientists end up being skeptics towards the whole Love and God thing.

    I wonder why the mind sets of early Scientists which worked with the knowledge that GOD has created has changed to the mind sets of scientists which wonder how a Loving GOD has created.

    It doesn't seem that they are interested in the micro biology of things more so than the empathy and understanding side of human existence.

    The reality that many, scientists and non scientists, seem to lack is that GOD has created man to be upright but they have sought out many inventions.

    Ecclesiastes 7:29
    "Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions."

    Most current natural disasters are instigated on by man's doing. The only divine, God sent, land disasters were very isolated to a very isolated location/space. The LORD opened up the earth for specific persons, not for entire communities.

    When HE opened up the earth for certain Kohathites for rebelling against Moses and then rebelling against THE LORD's attempt to ease The Kohathites minds of the cause of rebelling towards Moses, is an example.


    Numbers 16

    2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

    3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord?

    4 And when Moses heard it, he fell upon his face:

    5 And he spake unto Korah and unto all his company, saying, Even to morrow the Lord will shew who are his, and who is holy; and will cause him to come near unto him: even him whom he hath chosen will he cause to come near unto him.

    6 This do; Take you censers, Korah, and all his company;

    7 And put fire therein, and put incense in them before the Lord to morrow: and it shall be that the man whom the Lord doth choose, he shall be holy: ye take too much upon you, ye sons of Levi.

    8 And Moses said unto Korah, Hear, I pray you, ye sons of Levi:

    9 Seemeth it but a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them?

    10 And he hath brought thee near to him, and all thy brethren the sons of Levi with thee: and seek ye the priesthood also?

    11 For which cause both thou and all thy company are gathered together against the Lord: and what is Aaron, that ye murmur against him?

    12 And Moses sent to call Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab: which said, We will not come up:

    13 Is it a small thing that thou hast brought us up out of a land that floweth with milk and honey, to kill us in the wilderness, except thou make thyself altogether a prince over us?

    14 Moreover thou hast not brought us into a land that floweth with milk and honey, or given us inheritance of fields and vineyards: wilt thou put out the eyes of these men? we will not come up.

    15 And Moses was very wroth, and said unto the Lord, Respect not thou their offering: I have not taken one ass from them, neither have I hurt one of them.

    16 And Moses said unto Korah, Be thou and all thy company before the Lord, thou, and they, and Aaron, to morrow:

    17 And take every man his censer, and put incense in them, and bring ye before the Lord every man his censer, two hundred and fifty censers; thou also, and Aaron, each of you his censer.

    18 And they took every man his censer, and put fire in them, and laid incense thereon, and stood in the door of the tabernacle of the congregation with Moses and Aaron.

    19 And Korah gathered all the congregation against them unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation: and the glory of the Lord appeared unto all the congregation.

    20 And the Lord spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,

    21 Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment.

    22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?

    23 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,

    24 Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.

    25 And Moses rose up and went unto Dathan and Abiram; and the elders of Israel followed him.

    26 And he spake unto the congregation, saying, Depart, I pray you, from the tents of these wicked men, and touch nothing of their's, lest ye be consumed in all their sins.

    27 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children.


    28 And Moses said, Hereby ye shall know that the Lord hath sent me to do all these works; for I have not done them of mine own mind.

    29 If these men die the common death of all men, or if they be visited after the visitation of all men; then the Lord hath not sent me.

    30 But if the Lord make a new thing, and the earth open her mouth, and swallow them up, with all that appertain unto them, and they go down quick into the pit; then ye shall understand that these men have provoked the Lord.

    31 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them:

    32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.


    33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.

    34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.

    35 And there came out a fire from the Lord, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.



    Very isolated locale. Not an entire city or territory. Sodom was destroyed. It didn't have a reestablishable earthquake.
     
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    GOD offered a time for safety. Those that wanted to be safe were given an opportunity. Only after they chose for themselves, did GOD do what HE did. In EVERY situation HE DID, HE allowed for persons to get into safety.

    Dathan, Abiram, their wives, their children and their grandchildren cared less. They thought it was a big fairy tale hoax.

    32 And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods.

    33 They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.

    34 And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also.

    From non caring to crying out....
     
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    You can dl free software that makes any TV talking head say w/e you want in their voice and with their movements and manurisms. It wouldnt hold up to professional digital scrutiny, but it would fool the average viewer.

    You cant really be sure of ANYTHING that isnt face-face in person.
     
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    This is why this occurred:

    "1 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men:

    2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown:

    3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord?"

    And that is why GOD allowed for their conscience to ne settled and sure.

    "8And Moses said unto Korah, Hear, I pray you, ye sons of Levi:

    9 Seemeth it but a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them?

    10 And he hath brought thee near to him, and all thy brethren the sons of Levi with thee: and seek ye the priesthood also?

    11 For which cause both thou and all thy company are gathered together against the Lord: and what is Aaron, that ye murmur against him?"
     
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    Numbers13

    25And they returned from searching of the land after forty days.

    26And they went and came to Moses, and to Aaron, and to all the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the wilderness of Paran, to Kadesh; and brought back word unto them, and unto all the congregation, and shewed them the fruit of the land.

    27And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.

    28Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.

    29The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

    30And Caleb stilled the people before Moses, and said, Let us go up at once, and possess it; for we are well able to overcome it.

    31But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they arestronger than we.

    32And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

    33And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

    Numbers 14

    1And all the congregation lifted up their voice, and cried; and the people wept that night.

    2And all the children of Israel murmured against Moses and against Aaron: and the whole congregation said unto them, Would God that we had died in the land of Egypt! or would God we had died in this wilderness!

    3And wherefore hath the LORD brought us unto this land, to fall by the sword, that our wives and our children should be a prey? were it not better for us to return into Egypt?

    4And they said one to another, Let us make a captain, and let us return into Egypt.

    5Then Moses and Aaron fell on their faces before all the assembly of the congregation of the children of Israel.

    6And Joshua the son of Nun, and Caleb the son of Jephunneh, which were of them that searched the land, rent their clothes:



    7And they spake unto all the company of the children of Israel, saying, The land, which we passed through to search it, is an exceeding good land.

    8If the LORD delight in us, then he will bring us into this land, and give it us; a land which floweth with milk and honey.

    9Only rebel not ye against the LORD, neither fear ye the people of the land; for they are bread for us: their defence is departed from them, and the LORD is with us: fear them not.

    10But all the congregation bade stone them with stones. And the glory of the LORD appeared in the tabernacle of the congregation before all the children of Israel.

    11And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them?


    And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,

    27How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me.



    30Doubtless ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware to make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.

    31But your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, them will I bring in, and they shall know the land which ye have despised.

    32But as for you, your carcases, they shall fall in this wilderness.

    33And your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness.


    After all this, Korah brings an attack from within..

    Numbers 16:
    1 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men:

    2 And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men ofrenown:

    3 And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the Lord?"

    And that is why GOD allowed for their conscience to ne settled and sure.

    "8And Moses said unto Korah, Hear, I pray you, ye sons of Levi:

    9 Seemeth it but a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them?

    10 And he hath brought thee near to him, and all thy brethren the sons of Levi with thee: and seek ye the priesthood also?

    11 For which cause both thou and all thy company are gathered together against the Lord: and what is Aaron, that ye murmur against him?"

    Numbers 14:27
    "27How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me."
     
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    Thanks for that input. I think Senator Durbin's testimony of Mr. Trump calling those nations '**** holes' was reedited, personally. The second he says '**** holes, his lips looks as if it is lipping 'shackled' or 'shacked holes' or something to that nature.

    And there is internal oppression in the countries he was referring to, so it would make sense.



    1 minute 31 seconds in...

    Whatever it was, the video was 'edited' a little. Off key a bit. Not synced.
     
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    Could just be a glitch, too.

    That hole 'sh**holes' deal was such a nothingburger, I doubt anyone woulda gone to the trouble. If it were synthesized, I would hope whomever synthesized it would come up with something way better than that.
     
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    This member sure posts in a strange manner as if Presidents and others would call him or her.

    At one time, I did have calls from Senators and members of Congress, and there was never any doubt since I spoke to them regularly and it was normal Political business, nothing illegal or unusual.
     
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    There is no logic whatsoever in the beginning of this thread. Was this done on purpose, and if so then why?
     

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