Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen

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  1. dagosa

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    There are several stages of denial. First stage is, “it isn’t true.” The second is, “well, if it is, there’s nothing we can do about it.”
    Sounds like stage two. That gives deniers the opportunity to vote for fellow deniers who want everyone to dive back into the coal mines. Rest assured, you’re wrong.
    Amazing how much smart you were age 9. Sounds like the repugnant party of a few decades back which wanted to deal with climate change.....
     
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    what do you mean by 'take' baking soda and water? Eat it?
     
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    There's forever been days when you could scramble eggs on the front fender of a jeep or wing of an aircraft -- long before the cult of global warning existed, nothing new about that.
     
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    So... because we have had really hot days in the past, it invalidates global warming? You have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    There should be a cure for cancer by now.
     
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    It's still surgery, chemo, and radiation with the "cure" worse than the cancer.

    A neighbor lady was cured of breast cancer by surgery and chemo in 2005. She's alive, but the treatment was so debilitating she still can barely get up and walk.

    Some people are luckier than her.
     
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    I suspect that some feathers are going to be ruffled..... and
    some amazing advances will be made soon....
     
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    One half teaspoon to one teaspoon of baking soda in one glass of water.... daily....... it is that simple..

    It will give you gas..... you will burp for a few minutes..... but this is a small price to pay IF.......????

    This also may help......

    I made a tea out of this stuff yesterday and again today. Lot of this chaga can be found in the forests where I live. Chaga from birch trees is the most powerful.....

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318527.php

    Nine potential health benefits of chaga mushrooms

     
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    Well, there is, for some cancers. If cancer was a singular desease like small pox, we’d be there by now. But not only are there a plethora of cancer types, but each individual can require a different approach. Look at prostate cancer. Its “cured” with surgery for some types and locations but best treated with radiation and/ or hormone therapy for others.
    Anyone looking for a magic bullet that works for all cancers will be sadly disappointed. You can also set yourself up for early suffering and death if you mess with non traditional approaches.
     
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    You've provided zero evidence. This requires replicated studies. Please take some science classes and come back.
     
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    Hopefully cancer cells don’t appear in the blood even with prostate cancer in the prostate. The prostate Specific Antigen
    Or PSA maybe elevated in the blood either when cancer is found in the prostate or the prostate enlarges.
    If this psa was elevated on one blood test then went down, it still could be another imbalance that had nothing to do with the cancer. It might indicate a biopsy was necessary. The gold standard method for determining prostate cancer, is a biopsy of the prostate. Short of that, nothing is proven by your story.
     
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    It’s ok for people to depend upon the world of alternative medicine, as a back up after they get ligit treatment. That’s pretty much what Suzanne Sommers BS ed everyone with. She forgot to mention that she started with traditional cancer treatment first. That’s the BS they try to sell.
     
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    I see the Author has almost 20,000 posts, and maybe some of you know him personally, but before he tests that, provides substantial evidence and sophisticated tests, I'd not believe his words.

    I'm not getting into the Conspiracies again but...

    Do not follow his advice, for the sake of your health!

    I'll tell why. I'm from Bulgaria. Yes, we very well may be a Banana Republic, BUT...

    One of the best Docent Doctors around here, actually a Professor MD already, she's probably the best gastroenterologist in the country, never advised me to do such thing even when I had a chronic heartburns (stomach acid). Baking soda is told to work against acid.

    I often have heartburns.

    Now, if you take some baking soda and mix it with some milk, say Bulgarian yogurt milk, what happens is, and I can demonstrate, it erupts. It brutally inflates and increases its size a few times. It begins to literally BOIL. And it's instant. It reacts instantly and it bubbles; that's a clear chemical reaction.

    Now imagine you have something in your stomach that reacts with baking soda. It's called "baking soda" for a reason. It's for baking. So imagine this thing reacts with some food already in your gut or stomach. You're looking at some serious problems.

    Like sodium and water, it will roll and steam around your already ill gut, if we assume that you're already ill and trying to get better.

    A lot of people reported stomach perforations from baking soda. If you have a weak stomach or an ulcer, this can certainly perforate your gut. Your esophagus can easily rupture. Even if you're healthy.

    Don't do this, Leute!
     
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    There's an awful lot of what equates to: 'if it were true, the establishment would've told us about it' going on in this thread.

    Isn't possible that the establishment in this corporate kleptocracy we call 'capitalism' just might care more about money than our well being? And if so, isn't it then possible that this establishment would hide a cure for something that was more profitable in treatment, like cancer?

    I believe it is. But hey, that's prolly just the aluminum poisoning from my tin-foil-hat talking... :roll:
     
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    After the twenty two to twenty five minute mark in this video this guy verifies the statement about cancer cells not being able to survive in oxygen......
    this is all actually somewhat well known information.......
    at least by a segment of the population.


     
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    This is kind of a simple explanation may not specifically address the problem. Cancer cells are not an invading entity like a virus or bacteria. Cancer cells are what our own cells become when the lose their ability to metabolize using oxygen. Just reintroducing oxygen is not a clear solution when so many other factors are present that prevent the cells from utilizing it to begin with. Our failure in looking for easy cancer cures lies in our reluctance to look at every type of cancer as a different disease. They may have common characteristics, but thinking oxygenation is a cure isn’t one of them, no more then reintroducing air into a flat tire will always fix the tire. It doesn’t because the loss of air is a symptom and not a primary cause of a flat tire. You have to find the specific reason it went flat to begin with....and not all tires go flat for the same reason.

    Really, I doubt that any “Devine revelation” occurs on a message board. They are developed through scientific experimentation.
     
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    About three months ago a man from the little church that I attend.....
    sent his wife to Mexico for treatment. She has cancer.

    After she got back she was talking to my wife about the treatment that she
    received in Mexico........ and her taking Baking Soda..... was part of the alternative
    treatment that she got there.

    Her husband was kind of scratching his head over the idea of his wife travelling
    so far to do what she could easily have been doing for months before she went there.

    From the 22 minute to 25 minute mark in the video that I give in the post in #116 an alternative treatment
    for cancer is described that sounds pretty simple. Several doctors designed a room in which oxygen levels were double
    the usual levels....... A cancer patient was in that for a number of weeks or months... and her cancer went into remission.......

    Doctors in your nation Bulgaria might just be able to generate some medical tourism if you attempted something similar?

     
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    Going out side the accepted and proven norm of cancer treatments may seem enticing given the associated costs and often the physically easier approach, but it must be said.....these people suffer and die for delayed ligitimate treatment.

    No doctor would deny alternative measures if either the accepted means had not worked or they didn’t interfere with normal treatment.

    Case in point is Suzanne Sommers. She lauds over her alternative treatments for saving her life and makes lots of money off it...what she failed to disclose unless pressed was, she had 2 out of thee levels of treatment first and went to alternative measures for the last. She was cured before being engaged in a normally unproven treatment. This often happens for the few survivors.

    Cancer claims lives every day. They don’t have a magic bullet to reveal to anyone...because they are now deceased. We all know people who have died of cancer who delayed treatment or sought alternative approaches. Their story’s far surpassed the “magic bullet” testimaonials. We just don’t hear them out of respect.
     
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    Yes... and the very poor have little choice but to do so.....

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/i-think-i-have-cancer.547446/#post-1070335664


     
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    This seems like a good explanation.....
    on how to get more oxygen into the cells


     
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    Here is an explanation as to why baking soda seems to help some people....



    She says that baking soda does help to balance our pH.
     
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    I haven't seen these yet so the easiest way to find them again is to post them here:








    According to Italian doctor Tulio Simonchini, cancer is nothing but a fungus which can be eliminated with baking soda. Dr. Simonchini used this method to cure thousands of patients suffering from different types of cancer, and claims that it is 100% effective. Read more at: https://www.social-consciousness.co...jrIBD30ZBYwkWT_wkJYe9XBsiUz9Auiht2WE5A7D-AEZU
     
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    Stop just stop! This is also the problem with the denialist crowd - they do not bother to research for themselves

    To all of the “i read it somewhere” people on this thread there is a thing called google scholar
    Type in either the term “systematic review or meta analysis” and then what you want/to find

    https://europepmc.org/articles/pmc3872072
     

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