Capitalism threatens to throw us back to the Dark Ages

I bet it works on other parts of the body.
I'll check my girl friend.

 

What does this have to do with phrenology?

 

Isn't it obvious? Skulls, humans, biology, time, evolution...

Of course your snide "question" is really an attempt to avoid answering my aforementioned points.

Provide a counter argument I beg you.

 

Like the socialist Venezuela? Or Cuba?

 

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Counter argument to what? What are you proposing

 

And your evidence is?

 

While I agree we are heading for a depression, the cause of the depression is not capitalism, it is a debt based economy. Capitalism works great until you begin to corrupt it with socialism as we have done.

 

It's, everywhere, it's been around forever, no one knew about it, no one did anything about it....
.... and you blame Trump.


Thank you for demonstrating your obstinate and intolerant devotion to your opinions and prejudices

 

You're right, epidemics have been part of human existence forever.

And Trump disbanded the main agency we had that was devoted specifically to dealing with them less than a year after he took office. Many said at the time that something like this was inevitable and we should do more to be ready for it but Trump needed that money for something else, like a useless monument to bigotry on our Southern border.

Thank you for once again defending and advocating the wooden-headedness of the worst President we have ever had, a man whose main and major "strength" in the eyes of some is that he hates the same people they do.

 

Someone lied to you, and you bought it, because it was what you wanted to hear.

Thank you for continuing to demonstrate your obstinate and intolerant devotion to your opinions and prejudices

 

The lie is that Trump, though President in 2017, somehow had neither knowledge of nor influence on this particular thing that was going on. The person telling that lie is Trump himself and Trumpers cannot face that because they worship the man like Scientologists worship L. Ron Hubbard. Thank you for continuing to demonstrate that.

Here he is, actually telling the lie right out in the open so everyone can see it.

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/14/trump-says-no-idea-pandemic-response-team-disbanded-thats-true/

How ANYONE can stay a Trumper after seeing that is beyond me.

 

This is a, "Current Events," thread where facts should be more relevant than your biased OPINION.

The American Society of Clinical Pathologists has reported that the MT situation has improved dramatically since Trump de-regulated the Obama era mandated requirements on tertiary care inventory and staff limitations. The VA network has improved substantially across the board.

Many states have dramatically improved their medical lab service capabilities over the past two years, especially in the area of Hematology.
The state of New York was simply not one of them.
In fact, healthcare in general, within the state of New York, has been on a downward curve for quite some time now.

Obamacare was responsible for closing down 2,400 blood banks and at least 1,300 medical laboratories around the country because of census reduction, mainly as a result of bureaucratic denials.

Perhaps you need to read up on Hemotology... https://www.hematology.org/
https://www.hematology.org/covid-19

 

The ONLY people that are no longer there were members of the NSA board that simply departed on their own volition. The was no, "Disbanding," whatsoever.

The CDC teams have actually been funded better in recent years.

Again, this is a, "Current Events," thread where facts should be more relevant than your biased OPINION.

Perhaps some more reading on your part might help: https://www.westchestermedicalcenter.org/coronavirus-need-to-know

 

...Trump "disbanded the main agency" thst handles infection diseases.
He didn't.
You fell for the lie.

I'll add that to the long, long list of similar things.

 

CV-19 timeline:

December 31, 2019 - Cases of pneumonia detected in Wuhan, China, are first reported to the WHO. During this reported period, the virus is unknown. The cases occur between December 12 and December 29, according to Wuhan Municipal Health.
January 1, 2020 - Chinese health authorities close the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market after it is discovered that wild animals sold there may be the source of the virus.
January 5, 2020 - China announces that the unknown pneumonia cases in Wuhan are not SARS or MERS. In a statement, the Wuhan Municipal Health Commission says a retrospective probe into the outbreak has been initiated.
January 7, 2020 - CDC established a COVID-19 Incident Management System
January 7, 2020 - Chinese authorities confirm that they have identified the virus as a novel coronavirus, initially named 2019-nCoV by the WHO.
January 11, 2020 - The Wuhan Municipal Health Commission announces the first death caused by the coronavirus. A 61-year-old man, exposed to the virus at the seafood market, died on January 9 after respiratory failure caused by severe pneumonia.
January 13, 2020 - Thai authorities report a case of infection caused by the coronavirus. The infected individual is a Chinese national who had arrived from Wuhan.
January 16, 2020 - Japanese authorities confirm that a Japanese man who traveled to Wuhan is infected with the virus.
January 17, 2020 - Chinese health officials confirm that a second person has died in China. The United States responds to the outbreak by implementing screenings for symptoms at airports in San Francisco, New York and Los Angeles.
January 20, 2020 - CDC activated its Emergency Operations Center to better provide support to the COVID-19 response.
January 20, 2020 - China reports 139 new cases of the sickness, including a third death.
January 20, 2020 - The National Institutes of Health announces that it is working on a vaccine against the coronavirus. "The NIH is in the process of taking the first steps towards the development of a vaccine," says Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
January 23, 2020 - At an emergency committee convened by the World Health Organization, the WHO says that the Wuhan coronavirus does not yet constitute a public health emergency of international concern.
January 31, 2020 - The Trump administration announces it will deny entry to foreign nationals who have traveled in China in the last 14 days.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/health/wuhan-coronavirus-timeline-fast-facts/index.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/summary.html

Demonstrate that the supposed dissolution of the "agency" in question had any negative effect on our response to the CV-19 virus.

 

I think the complaint is that we should have had a contingency plan in place, which could have responded to ANY pandemic, regardless of the specific virus...e.g. pre-negotiated contracts for the expansion of medical supplies, etc. Instead, we've been cutting the CDC budget going back to the Great Recession, in favor of bailouts for the sake of the economy, as well as closing the office in the National Security Council organization charged with dealing with the threat of a pandemic (under the Trump administration).

 

Had the agency still been in existence it could have responded to the cases that took place between December 12 and 29, and they could have been identified earlier. Indeed, the virus might very well have been identified years earlier and this whole thing would have been avoided if not for Trump's shortsighted attempt to save money.

That is how epidemiology is supposed to work. It mainly heads off epidemics before they happen rather than responds to them while they are raging.

 

Every nation should have closed their borders by mid February, at the latest. Would have made a huge difference.

 

The "agency" is still in existence.

You must have missed this:

December 31, 2019 - Cases of pneumonia detected in Wuhan, China, are first reported to the WHO. During this reported period, the virus is unknown. The cases occur between December 12 and December 29, according to Wuhan Municipal Health.

Can't take care of something no one knows about.
So - again:
Demonstrate that the supposed dissolution of the "agency" in question had any negative effect on our response to the CV-19 virus.

Feel free to grasp at another straw in your obstinate and intolerant devotion to your opinions and prejudices