Capitol riots aftermath – to heal a badly divided nation we must do this

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  1. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    As a pastor, my motivation has always been biblical.

    His policies line up best with the principles I find in Scripture. These include, for example, support for the sanctity of human life and defense of religious liberty.

    My fidelity to the teachings of the Bible led to my continued support for the Trump administration’s policy agenda, and in the process, I have also developed a personal friendship with the president over the last five years that I value.

    It was also my unwavering commitment to the teachings of Scripture that compelled me to condemn the violence and riots that broke out during Black Lives Matter protests last summer.


    The same commitment to the teachings of Christ found in Scripture informs my sentiments today about what we witnessed at the Capitol on Wednesday.



    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/capitol-riots-heal-divided-nation-robert-jeffress





    The pastor and the President are right. It is now time for reconciliation and healing. It is a valid reason to support the President on biblical grounds. It is right to oppose what happened Wednesday and all summer long mob violence by anyone every time as that is biblical as well. If we can’t be civil and promote unity as we should the next 10 days or so, why would we do it the next four years ? The time for civility, dialogue, and reconciliation is now or it will be never.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    We should all come together in a spirit of prayer, reconciliation, forgiveness, to bring about unity and healing and we need to do it now!
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think it's too late. No unity.
     
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    Do you mean come together by declaring Trump president?

    If you want to come together, the first step would be to acknowledge that Biden is the duly elected president. Trump could concede and congratulate Biden, what about this novel idea?
     
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    No - that would mean that he admitted he lied for 2+ months. Which will imply that he lied for 4 years for everything

    The conned heads would explode
     
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    We simply need to stop dehumanizing the opposition.
     
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    Did your account get hacked? Who are you?
     
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    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    It isn't that hard.

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  9. XXJefferson#51

    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    That is the bottom line here...
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    No, that is me.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Well-Known Member

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    You may be right. My suggestion flies off the table if they instead to to impeach Trump and target his supporters. They do that and it’s scorched earth to revisit upon Biden every last thing the Dems did to Trump the last five years on a tit for tat revenge basis. Still willing to support the alternative for now...
     
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    So it's an ultimatum, not a call to unity. I figured as much.
     
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    So we should support a man that is the embodiment of the seven deadly sins on “biblical grounds”... are you serious?

    If your terms are treating women as slaves to the state once they get pregnant and “religious freedom” — which seems to mean Christians (and only Christians) have absolute exception to laws they don’t like even with no actual biblical command — in order to have peace... Hard pass.

    Civility left the chat when you elected a man that bragged about grabbing women by the ***** and screamed “f*** your feelings” to the majority of the country. You don’t get to call a truce now.
     
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    Their entire party platform seems to be “just do as we say and we won’t have a civil war”
     
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    Why?

    What in the world, after the last 12 years, would prompt anyone to believe that "forgiving and forgetting" will do anything other than encourage another Trump, another Hawley, another Cruz...

    Tell ya what...

    When we have Trump, his kids, and a few thousand of his cultists in federal prisons we'll come back to this "forgive and forget" for the rest.

    Fair enough?
     
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    There's a missing link, our leaders need to step up. The inauguration would be a perfect opportunity for our leaders to come together for unity, but sadly that isn't going to happen
     
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    The Party is awake. McConnell has a plan that excludes Trump (my guess). These Trumpers, on the other hand, are still in a dream. They still think if they do their jobs - making excuses for Trump - everything will be okay and Trump will get his way.

    Poor guys. They won't know what hit them. I don't think they realize the gravity of the situation, and that Trump is the toxic waste that's being disposed of, so that unity can occur.

    The GOP is in shambles. Pardons aren't going to work, and Mitch knows Trump is a targeted man whose hopes of political, legal and financial survival are slim to none.

    There will be no unity with Trump sycophants. Trump supporters can vote for anyone they want, but it won't be Trump, and the entire family is being shunned the world over. Sad, but it's done. The Trump name is toxic.
     
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    While the motivation you have is moral and admirable- coming together requires good faith and intent on both sides. Only a fool bases their judgment on what people say, because only the best of men hold their word as a sacred bond, and there seems to be no such persons left among democratic leaders and all the wacko radicals they have allied themselves with. It is what we do- not what we claim or say that defines us truthfully. The very people who have gained power in this extremely suspicious election have been on a vendetta since Trump entered the picture. We have seen the bar lowered over and over, seen the very social fabric that has made America great attacked by these people, seen racism falsely and strongly resurrected by them, seen justice denied, police rejected, arsonists, looters and rioters protected, seen freedom of speech attacked by the backdoors of big-tech censorship, seen our children, our military, our college students and every American fed propaganda designed to destroy their spirit and belief in themselves. By their own and repeated actions- these people have chosen to become the domestic enemies of the Constitution of the United States- and worse. Of course, when they take the oath of office it pledges them to defend the constitution against such people as themselves; but lying has been raised to an art form among them, and honor and shame no longer exist for them, so they will do no such thing- unless they can turn it into some ind of weapon of advantage, and they WILL try. Of course, there are many millions of Americans who have taken that same oath- who will honor it.

    Reconciliation? Forgiveness? Unity? Unfortunately, we are dealing with the most unscrupulous, untrustworthy people America has ever seen. You don't trust or cozy up to the rabid dogs that threaten you- Ever.
    We know that all the people on their side are not evil to the core- but until the once-respectable people of that side are willing to step up and truly clean up their own house, they won't be welcome in mine.
    The people that love this nation are going to be in the of those who don't everyday. They have no choice.
     
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    Unity starts when the lies stop. You ready?
     
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    Why not invite the rabid dogs to your house for dinner?
     
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    We tried that, gave them 4 years.
    Guess rabid dogs should be treated like rabid dogs — hopefully we have learned the lesson.
     
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    Well- you are mostly right there. I'd say when the lies stop, and all the people promoting hate and conflict are gone. Unity requires trustworthy people, and I don't see any among democratic leaders, nor the pack of radicals they have taken in. It's packed with people you couldn't trust with anything.

    Good people can get along, and will make reasonable compromises for unity. While it sounds cynical- I fully expect the Biden administration to prove there are none among them over the next few months. They've already promised things that make that extremely likely. IF I'm wrong, I'll be happy to apologize. Until they do- they should get the same degree of unity and support they gave Trump. That's about as fair as one could ask, and they don't deserve to be treated that well.
     
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    But, you haven't. You let the rabid dogs tell you the good dogs were rabid, and you failed to hold them accountable for all the vicious acts that they have been pulling since the day Trump announced he would run.
    They have you trained- not the other way around.

    All you have to do is wait and watch. You're going to see the nation screwed over like nothing you have ever thought possible.
     
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    We already have.
    What is the current nation debt?
    How many Americans have died from a mismanaged virus?
    Does anyone trust government more now than they did before trump?

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    Antifa?
     
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