CBS: Guns are responsible for nearly ¾ of the killings of transgender people since 2017, data shows

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  1. CCitizen

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    Sadly, each year about 25,000 people with Severe Depression end their own lives with guns. That is in USA alone.

    Disarming these people would have saved them.
     
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    I disagree. Most people who plan suicide are ambivalent.
     
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    Most people who commit suicide have Very Severe Depression -- they are not capable of making informed decisions.
     
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    It is hard to be ambivalent and step off a bridge.
     
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    That's one of the more interesting statements I've heard. If they are ambivalent, why would they be planning their suicide?

    And as I said, those determined to do it.....
     
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    It's merely Darwin at work. The weak perish. It's only castles burning, find someone who's turning, and you will come around.
     
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    Good point. So far, no one is proposing we disarm law enforcement.
     
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    Drano.
    Liquid Plumr.
     
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    And if these individuals had utilized other methods for ending their own existence, any method other than firearms, they would not even be given a passing mention as their deaths could not be exploited for purely political gains.
     
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    The obvious question of "so what?" must be asked with regard to the above. What ultimate, meaningful difference, does such actually make?
     
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    You cannot demonstrate this to be true.
     
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    Totally false, per the CDC firearms are used for self defense ranging from 300K to well over 2M times depending how the use's are counted a year to prevent a law abiding person from becoming a victim of a crime.
     
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    False firearms are designed to expel a projectile, who or what is on the receiving end of that projectile is determined by the holder of the firearm, not the firearm.

    By simply regurgitating the falsehoods of the anti-gunners, you are seriously damaging your credibility.
     
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    Committing suicide is a act of total self indulgence.
     
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    In this country.

    In the countries with the highest suicide rates, it's rope. Rope is also seldom used in self defense.
     
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    Every suicide is tragic. Mostly due to the lack of medical and psychological care for people in need.
     
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    Most people who commit suicide are not really determined -- they act on an impulse.
     
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    No it wouldn't.. what would help if people just sniff each other's hair more like uncle Joe

    (Sarcasm)
     
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    Social Darwinism is Evil -- all Humans have value as G-d's Creation.
     
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    Totally false, if they didn't have a firearm they would simply find another way to kill themselves, there are many ways other than firearms to go out.

    Things as simple as stepping of the roof of a multistory building or stepping in front of a train will cause one to become just as dead.
     
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    Could you do it?

    The entire problem with suicide to me is it might hurt..and it would tick me off not knowing who won the super bowl or Clemson beating LSU
     
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    For each justifiable homicide, there are 30 criminal homicides.
     
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    No! As a Jew I believe that it would lead to very long suffering. Not eternity but millennia.
     

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