CBS: Guns are responsible for nearly ¾ of the killings of transgender people since 2017, data shows

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  1. Well Bonded

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    Only if they are humans, which many of them are not!
     
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    All Humans are Humans -- in Canada even the worst criminals are treated humanely.
     
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    How they are treated matters not, how they treat other people determines if they are humans.
     
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    Unfortunately, that projectile is ejected with so much energy that it can kill everyone who stands in its way. But why forget friends of firearms this simple truth, when it comes to discussion about gun laws?
     
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    More falsehood, at best a projectile might pass through one person, but expanded and slowed down it would be a much lower threat to anyone else.
     
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    Anyone who wants a gun can get one easily regardless of any law. Surely you have noticed.
     
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    Good argument for being armed.
     
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    And sadly what the anti-gunners fail to understand is, if they where successful in banning guns, they would make law enforcements job much more difficult.

    The way the system currently is a reverse trace is easy to do, find a gun at a crime scene and send it's make and serial off to BATF and within minutes BATF will advise local law enforcement where that gun was sold, from there law enforcement can go to that FFL request and exam the 4473 and know who the gun was sold to and begin working the case from there.

    However if the anti's got their wish, guns would not go away they would be smuggled into the U.S. just like illegal drugs and would be untraceable.
     
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    Without a gun at hand, it is hard to commit a crime or suicide on impulse decision.
     
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    No law will eliminate access to guns from existing arms makers, and even if it was possible to eliminate them more powerful weapons will be made with ease from materials available at Home Depot to meet demand.
     
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    Tell that falsehood to the people in Japan or Britain, once again you are totally incorrect.
     
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    ...the person(s) trying to kill you.
     
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    Funny how the countries with the highest suicide rates don't have access to guns.
     
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    False. Not merely factually correct, but outright false. The notion of suicides being spontaneous acts that cannot be predicted is nothing less than pure nonsense, purported by psychologists who failed at identifying individuals who demonstrated obvious signs of mental illness.

    If the notion for one to end their own existence was purely impulsive, these individuals would readily step in front of motor vehicles, or otherwise plow their motor vehicles into oncoming traffic, or undertake any number of other potential methods of ending their own existence.

    Suicide is a deliberate choice, committed by one who has made the determination that they wish to end their own existence. There is no impulsivity to it.
     
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    With great ease, and without hesitation.
     
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    Wow how many times did ya do it, I am interested.

    Seriously its final
     
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    This is true for those who don't have a basic knowledge of self defense ammo.
     
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    A question was presented. That being whether or not the individual could go through with ending their own existence. In response an answer was given. It is an act that could indeed be done.
     
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    I can't bellieve I'm not seeing anyone else mention this.

    The article talks about "transgenders killed with firearms" and their source is stats on "gun deaths".

    And then they start talking about hate crimes. When nothing in their stats says anything about murder.

    Except...most transgenders who die by firearms are suicides. Overwhelmingly so. Transgenders a population with a massive suicide rate.

    I smell fake news. Trying to bamboozle us by having us believe that gun nuts are hunting for trannies, and saying to ban guns because of that, when the reality is that they're just killing themselves.
     
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    Hence why there are so many calls for firearm-related restrictions, to try and save these individuals from themselves. They obviously cannot help but harm themselves, so they need government interference to keep them from doing such.
     
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    It still sounds like it could hurt and you might survive, I wouldn't recommend it.

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    The same as in black communities, deaths which law abiding gun owners are also falsely blamed for.
     
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    Should have walked in front of a train, mission accomplished.
     
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    That would be one hellova painful way to do it. If that was the last resort, they actually would be better of using a gun.
     
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    It is not possible for one to support the notion that government has the legal authority to take whatever steps it deems necessary to prevent individuals from ending their own existence, while simultaneously believing the so-called "war on drugs" is without legitimacy and should be ended. The two are entirely contradictory positions. One must support one or the other, but they cannot support both.
     
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