Challenge for Atheists: Define God

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  1. Heretic

    Heretic Active Member

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    Atheists claim that God does not exist.

    But what are they claiming does not exist? Can an atheist please Define God to me?

    Expected answers:

    Invisible man.
    Flying Spaghetti Monster.
    Pink Magical Unicorn.
     
  2. Kranes56

    Kranes56 Banned

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    A magical creature that people have put faith into without having any proof.
     
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    Heretic Active Member

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    See expected answer #3
     
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    Kranes56 Banned

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    Wow, you're good. But he's white. Pink just isn't fashionable.
     
  5. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    The specifics of what they claim does not exist changes with the conversation. An atheist is a person which has not been presented with a god-concept that he or she believes in. This includes many different definitions of God, including the ones you cite but also the commonly believed gods.

    To think that atheists believe that the Flying spaghetti monster is an accurate description of God would be silly. The argument connected to the FSM is by comparing reasons for belief, not specifics about the god. The FSM is not a definition of God, it is a proxy which retains the features atheists disagree with.
     
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    Define god?
    There is nothing to define.
     
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    I challenge you. Can you define me what is God?

    Atheists don't believe in its existence because nothing has proved its existence, so is absurd believe in that. And also is something that does not affect our lives for anything.

    God is some magical being that people believe on it, and that people give to this being the properties that they like, according to the books that they read. Books written by humans.
     
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    God to christians. Father, Son, and a holy spirit.
    God to muslims. Not exactly sure, but he is the same as the christian God. Except he in only 1. No son or holy ghost.
    God to Jews. The spirit that gave them a holy land and rules to live by. And he has many names. Singular, plural, family type. Many different spirits.

    All 3 of those have the same God. Different interpretation of him/it/them/her/etc.

    So as a theist. Who is God.

    PS - to answer your question.
    Anyone that the person wants him/it/her/them to be.
     
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    Whatever YOUR imagination tells me this 'god' is.
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't make claims about any god's existence. Rather, a theist says something about their idea of god and I say "that's great, but I don't believe that the things you're saying are true."
     
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    I forgot to add option #4 "nothing".

    Many atheists are going to define God as "nothingness". More input is welcome, thanks.
     
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    the god, that actually is god, is nature itself.

    We live within nature.

    We are defining nature

    I am the name holder
     
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    That's a good one, Bishadi. But are you truly an atheist? I don't know about that.
     
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    A superhuman entity worshipped as having power over nature.

    These "challenges" started off easy, but they are getting so simple it's silly.
     
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    I agree with Heretic here. The point of atheism is to deny several concepts of god (supposedly all). That's the interesting point of this thread. Thus a person who is not an atheist believes in one or several concepts of god and their definitions isn't really helping the thread.
     
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    I don't claim God doesn't exist. For me, the label atheism describes the fact I happen not to believe in the existence of any of the specific gods I've heard proposed.

    There isn't one definition (even if you assume the capital "G" is a limitation to Christianity). In fact, I'd go as far as to suggest there is at least one definition per theist.

    Theists provide the definitions and characteristics for the deities they are claiming exist, general alongside specific actions or inaction we expected to take in response to their existence. Everyone else (atheists and other theists) can only respond to those definitons, continuously and subconsciously (belief not being a choice).
     
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    First define "God".
    .A personal god who intervenes on an individual's pleadings? No. Some being which kickstarted the universe and left it to evolve? We have no way to tell, so for all practical purposes, no. The various degrees in between? No. I have seen no form of "God" described which I find credible.
     
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    God to me is the invisible friend you hope will help every time you're in trouble.
    To me this idea of a God reduces the capability or a person. Rather to find a solution for a problem, they hope and talk to their invisible friend.
     
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    He's an imaginary figure created by man from a book written by men thats no more than hearsay on paper.
     
  20. Bishadi

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    just an evolved theist

    People that label me an athiest are ooosually morons.

    You asked for what 'god' is. I just gave you the final answer, that none can discount except to lie to themselves,
     
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    Deists huh.....interesting.
     
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    If you can read minds and know what atheists are going to say, why did you ask the question in the OP???

    That doesn't make any sense......unless you're just trolling.....(shrug)
     
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    :) I'm getting a kick out of all the "Challenge to Atheist" threads....so revealingly defensive.....running scared???? :)
     
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    Yeah good old Gawd followers. They know what everyone thinks and speak for their imaginary friend in the sky who apparently does not have a mouth of his own.
     
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    Ok, I'll play :)


    "god' : A make believe invisible guy that really weak people need to justify all the rotten things that they do to each other .


    Here's another def: What desperate people, seeking an answer to why this bizarre world exists, created to make themselves feel better....and use as an excuse to murder, rape, and steal.
     

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