Chaos in the Caribbean

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  1. 6Gunner

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    Wanted to share this with everyone. This speaks directly to the greatest, most fundamental failure of gun control: contribution to anarchy/lawlessness in the aftermath of events such as Hurricane Irma.

    Caribbean

    by John Farnam | 11 Sep 2017 | 2017 | 0 comments

    11 Sept 17

    Anarchy/lawlessness in the Caribbean:

    Every Caribbean island impacted by Hurricane Irma has experienced complete breakdowns of law and order. Nearly all Islands affected (with the exception of Cuba), are former protectorates of France, the UK, or the Netherlands.

    All three European countries insist civilian populations on the Islands, as well as at home, be completely disarmed. Only paranoid politicians (and imaginative/inventive criminals) have guns!

    Now, anarchy has broken out. Full-time criminals (including jail escapees), along with “borderline criminals” (who have promptly reverted to type) are terrorizing everyone else, particularly foreign tourists, with armed robbery and physical attacks.

    Predictably, all outwardly anti-gun politicians on the Islands are now sheepishly, hypocritically, desperately calling for immediate deployment of ARMED European soldiers to restore order.

    A logical observer will immediately deduce that what leftists call “gun control,” (aka, total elimination of the private ownership of guns), whether tested by Mother Nature, or by Islamic terrorists, fails utterly, everywhere it has been tried.

    It ever fails to protect citizens, because they are prohibited from protecting themselves. We’re currently witnessing yet another unfolding failure of “gun control,” this time in the Caribbean.

    Conversely, in the USA, we love guns!

    We also love freedom and independence.

    Armed Americans, also impacted by Hurricane Irma (and Harvey), are not being similarly terrorized by criminals, although there are plenty of criminals around, and they’re just as sleazy as Caribbean criminals, but here they’re restrained by fear of getting shot!

    Our media is ignoring this story, of course, because it doesn’t fit their leftist agenda.

    “Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to ‘feel’ safe.”

    Dianne Feinstein

    /John

    http://defense-training.com/2017/caribbean/
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep.

    Some of the industrial warehouses in Texas that were donated for relief efforts were smack dab in residential areas. They were having some problems with gang threats, so Oath Keepers deployed there to take care of the problem and are now escorting relief vehicles and supporting law enforcement in protecting the facilities.

    Good guys with guns at the ready is why Texas has been spared a lot of problems from the scum of society.

     
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    No wonder I have a job offer in the small tropic Island Nation of San Dorinde.

    Insurection has run amock.....
     
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    Yes it the oath keepers and vigilantes keeping people safe and not the respective difference in police forces :p.
     
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    What are you on about now ?
     
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    I think it is quite simple, vman said the oathkeepers are keeping people safe in texes, the premise of this thread is that americans are safe due to private citizens with guns.

    My comment is mocking that premise.

    Obviously.
     
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    So, private citizens with guns don't make it safe for others? Don't tell me you've never heard of an armed citizen coming to the aid of others.
     
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    Yes.
    That is what you do.
    Mock.
    Obviously.

    How very sad..
    Carry on.
     
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    Why would you mock reality?
     
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    Actually, most Caribbean islands arent exactly bastions of law & order without hurricane damage. Now instead of ripping off tourists, theyre ripping off each other.
     
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    If you can't protect your property after a hurricane without a gun, you deserve to lose it.
     
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    Wow. Seriously, tom? Sorry, but that's a statement of pure arrogance and denial of reality.

    Oh, and to say that someone "deserves" to lose everything to the depredation of violent criminals is offensive beyond the pale. I saw a similar sentiment expressed once during a television documentary on crime and violence. The subject making the statement was a violent sociopath imprisoned for armed robbery and assault, who said if he wanted something he had the right to take it, and if the person who had it couldn't stop him from taking it then they "deserved to lose it." Sound familiar?

    Of course, when the interviewer asked him if the victim had a gun? The criminal said, "I'd take it away from 'em." And if the victim shot him first? "Then I guess I don't take it."

    Interesting, isn't it?
     
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    This idea that guns solve your problems is so far out there it's tragic. You protect yourself, and your property with your brain. Apparently you didn't have an adult in your house as a child that taught you that.
     
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    it appears to be requirement for those who want to pretend that honest Americans with guns don't do anything beneficial with firearms. The vast majority of the anti gun movement is based on dishonesty or disingenuous motivations
     
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    I'm sorry, but you're wrong, plain and simple. Your ego and your arrogance have rendered you irrational, and proven I am far more of an adult than you'll ever be. Yeah, sure, you can protect yourself from multiple looters armed with all kinds of improvised weapons "with your brain". What a f'ing joke.

    Oh, and I had numerous adults in my house growing up. Law-enforcement officers and military veterans all. And they all kept guns for emergencies. Excuse me if I don't hold the opinions of someone like you superior to theirs.
     
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    So why did you go and fight in Vietnam ?
    You carried a Gun(s) there for what purpose ?
    Now you are very old and near the end of the line, and espouse a doctrine far removed from reality and how you once lived.

    Care to explain ??????
    Hmmmmm ?
     
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    Both my parents were Anti Gun, by age 10, I saw how wrong they were.
    Church was both Anti Gun and preached hate against LGBT, yet that did not stop many Church clergy from abusing children.

    Your rabid devotion to Gun Control is abnormal.
     
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    What does that have to do with carrying a gun because you can't rely on your brain to keep you out of trouble?
     
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    Why did I carry a gun in Vietnam? Are you serious?
     
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    Yes.
    I am serious.

    Why didn't you simply rely on your brain to keep you out of trouble in Vietnam ??????
     
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    So explain, how do you rely on your brain to keep you out of trouble when facing an armed attacker or various armed attackers ?
     
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    You're serious? That's too bad, because you're not asking serious questions.
     
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    Why were you facing armed attackers?
     
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    Because violent, armed criminals like to stalk and attack honest citizens, jackwagon. Oh, and they're REAL aggressive about it in crisis situations when they're sure they won't have to worry about rapid police response.
     
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    Simple, when I lived in New York City years ago, I lived near a very nice Restaurant and wanted a very tasty meal.

    Walking back to my apartment, I encountered a rowdy group of teens maybe 12 -14 all carrying heavy sticks.

    They made threatening moves and I did not know what other weapons might be in that crowd, I was a Police Officer then and unholstered my revolver and the crowd dropped their sticks and ran away.

    That type of mob was common place in NYC.
     

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