Charles Manson is rotting in hell

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    We agree that they SHOULD question scientists, and should question religious texts.
    We should question Jesus for the Bible's belief that women are vastly inferior to men:
    First Corinthians 14:33–35: “.....women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church” (ESV).

    Jesus approved of the old laws, so of course the barbaric laws in the OT are approved by this immoral invisible zombie.
     
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    And any Christian who approves of Jesus doing this is an immoral, uncaring, unfair person. What percentage of Christians will condemn Jesus for Jesus damning all gays to being burned alive in Jesus' barbaric "lake of fire"? If they were ethical it would be 100%, but I think the figure is more like 0.00000000000000001%.
     
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    I see that you are as unfair and uncaring as God/Jesus is.
    Modern Secular Humanists, on the other hand, have of course risen to a much higher moral plane - hopefully you and other Christians and God/Jesus will someday find enough love in your heart to love gays and not have sheer hatred for them.
     
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    No, Jesus said, "Let him without sin cast the first stone". So your "lying".

    He also said, "Love thy neighbor as thyself". And that includes women.
     
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    I love everybody. It is the gays who hate. And specifically they hate God and all His ways.

    In using a sharp tongue, you try to turn it around.
     
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    The Bible says women are worth HALF a man.....can you condemn the Bible for that? If not, then I have a better belief system for you to check out.....
     
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    Jesus doesn't condemn them, they condemn themselves.

    God did not create animals for man to have sex with them, the same way in which he did not create man to have sex with man. It's not what the creation was intended for, nor in such a manner could the creation go on.
     
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    Great, then join me in saying this prayer that I just said "God/Jesus, please change your ways and allow ethical Muslims into heaven and to avoid hell."
    If you can't say that prayer then you don't really "love everybody" (like I do), and you'll want to leave God/Jesus because you deserve a more loving belief system than God/Jesus can provide.
     
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    I love all as I love myself. Discussing hard topics (in which shouldn't be), does not mean I hate you, or anybody. Such a thought shows where the hate is truly at.
     
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    The "all-powerful" magic zombie could take a break from creating "acts of god" (such as the deadly Aceh Tsunami that killed 240,000 innocent people) and tell us that he's now NOT sending gays to "hell". In other words Jesus could change and grow to become a better person than he is - to allow gays into heaven, to find his compassion - to be more like a Modern Secular Humanist. To love gays instead of hate them.
     
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    Yeah - if he is religious that's deep cover indeed. It means no more communication with your past as you pretend to be someone else. If someone recognize you for what you are, you're busted. That's deep cover indeed.

    Now why would one do that? Because he would know that he'll be President in what, 10, 15 years? Think about it.
     
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    So we'll treat you as HALF the value of the opposite gender....you'd apparently be fine with that - fine with discriminating against you for something that you have zero control over (your gender)??? You can't even condemn God/Jesus for women being worth HALF a man in the Bible, so obviously you are deluding yourself when you say you "love all as I love myself". Or you HATE yourself, I don't know.
     
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    YOU are the one full of hatred - let me prove that - would you condemn God/Jesus if they send Gandhi "hell" (he's a Hindu)? I would, because I love more than God/Jesus/most Christians do, of course.
     
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    Then you obviously hate yourself.
     
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    Just like when people refuse the Mafia's generous offer of "protection", and then get wacked....they condemned THEMSELVES, eh?
     
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    Muslims don't believe in Jesus. Why would a Muslim even want to be with Jesus? for they don't even believe in Him. If that is what they want, that is what they get. You can take that as hateful, but it is them who hates Jesus, and they are merely getting what they want. And it's all caused from lies and deceptions. "Ever learning, yet never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

    "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof".
     
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    Live by the sword, die by the sword.

    If one wants to hang around a bunch of liars, they will be lied to.
     
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    Because they don't want to burn in hell......but Jesus won't give them a 2nd chance. Modern Secular Humanists believe in 2nd chances, Jesus obviously doesn't (based on the Bible, that is.)
     
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    You should go back and read through this thread. You will see those of hate and name calling, and it will not be me.

    God's judgment is righteous, He is able to judge the good deeds to the bad deeds, this is something nobody on earth, no judge or court can do. They don't care about your good deeds, only the crime and reason in which you are there to begin with. Their judgment is nowhere near "righteous". Thus I will not even "try" to attempt what God does with Gandhi.
     
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    That's because he has steadfastly refused, for 2000 years, to give enough evidence that he's actually divine and that the Bible is actually true! I'd do that if I was in Jesus' shoes - that's because of course I care for Muslims (and atheists and Hindus, etc.) far far more than the zombie does, obviously. Even a chimpanzee can prove he's real (throw pooh at you, I don't know)...but Jesus can't even prove he's real to the same level that a chimp can - so clearly Jesus is not real or not loving. Either way he's obviously not worth worshipping.
     
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    I have appreciated your civil tone throughout. Thanks for that.
    You are better than the angry zombie who in Mt 23:33 allegedly said "You snakes! You brood of vipers!...."
    Jesus was clearly unbalanced, and had anger issues. You are better than Jesus in many many ways. I bet you'd let gays into heaven if it was up to you?
     
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    It is indeed faith alone. One cannot get to heaven by their works, it requires faith. To believe Jesus Christ is the way to the Father, that He did walk this earth in the flesh, died for our sins, and defeated death. If one believes this with all his heart, mind, body, soul, and strength, they will inherit the kingdom. In believing that, is to better walk in righteousness, committing fewer and fewer sins, and becoming stronger in love.
     
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    I'm afraid you have a severely warped sense of right and wrong - "God" slaughtered INNOCENT CHILDREN (first born sons of Egypt) in the barbaric Bible! The Bible also says that he "blesses" people who smash babies against rocks!

    "How blessed will be the one who grabs your babies and smashes them on a rock!" (Psalm 137:9)....I assume that you've risen to the high moral standards of Modern Secular Humanism and removed that barbaric verse from your Bible - since you are a good person and a good parent.
     
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    No FACTS, just FAITH AND FEAR.
    That's sad.

    If you were in the invisible zombie's shoes would you provide a courtroom level of evidence for your divinity (thereby keeping many many more people from "hell")? I would, because I care for humanity far more than God/Jesus does. Can you join me in rising above the moral level of God/Jesus and most Christians, jrr?
     
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    No I would not, for it is not of heaven/kingdom, or the way in which creation was intended. To give in and accept evil, even if most consider that evil "small" or "come on it's not that bad", is to allow the next one (this one's not that bad either), to come along. To man, satan is not weak nor stupid, rather man is.
     

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