Charlottesville, VA protests white nationalist vs Antifa

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Which is WORSE of these two hate groups? And should anyone be allowed to wear masks?

  1. White nationalist

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Antifa

    13 vote(s)
    40.6%
  3. Think both groups are hateful thugs that harm the nation.

    11 vote(s)
    34.4%
  4. I think legislation should be passed against wearing masks at protests

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  5. I don't care if they wear masks and possibly kill someone and then can't be identified

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Fred C Dobbs

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    Because Antifa is the armed wing of the Democratic Party and politicians are too fearful to act. It has become the party of Maxine Waters.
     
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    Why pay any attention to a nutcase like Jason Kessler? He was part of OWS, voted for Obama, and is now pitting Americans against each other any way he can.

    I doubt he would fight Antifa because they're all on the same side.
     
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    This is what conservatives are trying so hard to avoid. The right-wing groups are traveling around the country looking for liberal areas to cause trouble in. Just as was the case in Washington DC yesterday , thousands of counter protesters showed up to say, "Not in my town!". This is usually how it goes. The right-wingers number maybe a hundred or two. The counter protesters a thousand or two. The anti-Fascists, thirty or so.

    Yet the right wing press makes it sound like the anti-fascists just caused a lot of unprovoked violence. However, those who see it first hand, it is the good people of the neighborhood who, with their thousands strong voices, seek to drown out the hate and anger that the right seems to be so full of.
     
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    There are at least two reasons; first despite almost all political violence in this nation having been instigated by the Left the leftist-Allied MSM is in control of the bulk of what the citizens HEAR and ALL they hear is that it's the Right that is traditionally violent. Thus as far as the MSM is concerned ANTIFIA is a total non-issue and ALL that the police need to concern themselves with is what horrors any Right of Center group is up to . . . such as picking up their own litter after a peaceful demonstration. So if a no-masks ruling was put into general effect there would immediately be leftist generated cries of Suspension of the Freedom of Speech and also, and inevitably, cries of "That's racism/bigotry because what about women wearing traditional burkas while wanting to protest against EVIL White culture?"


    Second, there actually has got to be a law or laws crafted and then passed before something like a 'no masks' ruling can even stand up in a court of law ruled over by the inevitable leftist activist judge.
     
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    Well I think one group really exists and the other one is a figment of people's imagination or it's so incredibly tiny it's nothing to worry about.

    Antifa exists and I would say they're not really a problem a few police in riot gear spraying pepper ship right at them hitting them with bean bag guns will make them f*** off pretty easily. They don't really have the Constitution for a revolution.

    White nationalists don't seem to exist in any large capacity and for the most part we don't really see them doing anything at these events so for the most part they're peaceful.

    Yes I think local governments need to respond and they aren't. I think it's based on fear that they will suffer the fate of bad Optics. Pepper spraying these little wimps and shooting them in the guts with a bean bag gun might really make the police look bad to others. And cause further rioting.

    So I think the only solution is to send in National Guard to pepper spray their stupid asses maybe a few hours of feeling like you're going to go blind will make you think twice about LARPing revolutionary.
     
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    Yeah being called a Nazi by these retards just means you believe in the First Amendment the Second Amendment the country you live in so coming from these ass clowns it's a compliment.
     
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    If you really hold their feet to the fire a principled leftist will admit that the overwhelming majority of American history was white supremacist and evil until about 50 years ago. It highlights how they have no real connection to the country. That’s why it’s dumb when they try and pretend white nationalist views are “Un-American”.
     
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    About 100 people for Unite the Right
    About 1000 people protesting

    No wonder Unite the Right left early and scurried back to their sewer to hide.
     
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    Every time I see your avatar I laugh out loud.

    I think moving away from an ethnostate is a good idea.
     
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    You mean like the Left universally and vocally condemns violent ANTIFA and Louis Farakhan . . . oh wait; mostly they just praise them with faint damns.
     
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    Ummmmmmmm . . . did you notice that it was leftist representative and violent ANTIFA that got pepper sprayed? The Left ALWAYS instigates violence and leftists in general either make excuses for that or ignore it.
     
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    Antifa existed in the early 1900s. It's nothing new. People have been fighting fascism and racism for a long time. Only recently though the alt right cultists are using this to drive their fake narrative that it's something new that spawned from "evil liberals."
     
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    I agree except for one thing, I want legislation passed they can't wear masks. Until that happens this idiotic hateful violent movement will keep growing. If they knew their faces would be videotaped and on the news and everyone they will hold them accountable including their bosses, neighbors, and law enforcement, I think most would stop congregating.
     
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    How can you say this AND claim the parties switched ideologies? Will you lay blame of every trouble in history, whether committed by a democrat or not, at the feet of republicans? Would you give credit to dems for FDR's "new deal" but say it was the GOP for FDR's internment camps?
     
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    When ever someone claims the Nazi's are right wing, what economic policy of theirs is right wing? Is it the socialism?
     
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    i never said such a thing.
     
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    I made a mistake on this poll. I meant to check "both are hateful". As both groups are trash.
     
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    Nazis fully embraced wealthy capitalists and their large industries.

    Socialists arrest such people and nationalize their factories and companies.
     
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    Nazis did arrest such people, and nationalize their factories and companies, or do you think the Jews were hobos that had nothing to offer in Germany? Nazis and communists are two sides of the same coin, like Baptist and Catholics, Sunni and Shiite. They are both socialist with different ways to get to their end goal, and different boogie men to blame their troubles on.
     
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    Nazis embraced capitalism more than Socialism
     
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    The modern day Antifa-terrorists are a loose collection of anarchists and communists, who adopted a pre-existing name and set of symbols. That many of them might be deluded into believing that they are fighting Nazis and racists, doesn't excuse them or their adult supporters.

    They absolutely are an outgrowth of the modern left.
     
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    No, they didn't. They Nationalized and socialized their economy. Fascism and is STATE ran economy, just like socialism. After the Nazis took the businesses from the rich Jews, they redistributed it to their followers with a strict set of rules for how the businesses were to be ran. There was nothing in Nazi Germany that was "free market".
     
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    LOL WHAT? Germany seized control of everything! The GOVERNMENT did!

    Thank you for posting this. I can't wait for further discussions about your "knowledge" of capitalism.
     
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