Cheap produce? 900 Teachers "Laid Off" in California

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Although this happened a couple of years ago, it shows where our tax dollars are going and just how cheap is this illegal labor. I don't expect this to make much difference to most Liberals, they have been so brain washed by this administration that no matter what you say makes no difference to them. Maybe it will to some of the rest of you.

    900 teachers just got laid off from the Los Angeles Unified School District . They are $650,000 over their annual budget.

    The following English teacher helps to explain one area that looms large over California 's educational crisis.


    THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS
    POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.
    This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet .

    This should make everyone think , be you Democrat, Republican or Independent
    From a California school teacher - - -

    "As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:
    I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic and income levels.

    Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens, Huntington Park , etc.. where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

    Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten.
    ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

    I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones . The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids.
    ( OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

    I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America ..
    (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

    I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less than 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them "Putas" ( whores ) and throwing things , that the teachers were in tears.

    Free medical, free education, free food, day care, etc, etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled not only to be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements?

    To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal immigration and see the TRUE costs.

    Higher insurance, medical facilities closing, higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc. For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

    Americans, We need to wake up. Congressman Paul Ryan's (WI-01) "Guest Worker Program" will be a disaster.

    It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education, that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses to assimilate, and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about " political correctness " that we don't have the will to do anything about it.

    If this makes your blood boil , as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know including your Congressmen and Senators.

    CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

    Business doesn't want to pay a decent wage.

    Consumers don't want expensive products nor produce.

    Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

    BUT, that's a LIE. Only 4% of Illegal Immigrants work our farms. 40% crowd our jails and prisons.

    But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase "cheap labor" is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as "cheap labor."

    Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an " earned income credit" of up to $3,200 free.

    He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent .

    He qualifies for food stamps..

    He qualifies for free (no deductible), no co-pay) health care.

    His children get free breakfasts and lunches at school.

    He requires bilingual teachers and books.

    He qualifies for relief from high energy bills...

    If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI.
    Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare . All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense .

    He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

    Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

    He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

    Working Americans are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills AND his.

    The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

    Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

    http://www.usanot4sale.com/joomla/i...rticle&id=102:900-teachers-qlaid-offq-in-cali
     
  2. JoeSixpack

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    Why isn't this being voiced on any media outlet? Why isn't this on the lips of any politician?

    Simple answer, because the media is owned by the same entities who own the politicians in the two party scam.
     
  3. Enthrone Darkness

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    ESL students are generally bad. I speak from experience. I am a staunch defender of public education, but it needs reform. I am a defender because my Wife is a teacher, who was forced by her district into getting an ESL certification.

    Now, where I live - we tend to get students from Asia, or countries like the Dominican Republic.

    These students, if male, have a profound lack of respect for women. My wife has been called names by students and their parents in turn. Disrespected, insulted, badgered and threatened. All for attempting to discipline these students when they use the word slut, whore, skank, etc to insult her.

    It is my honest opinion that these students should not be in our education system. They should have a seperate system that integrates them with our CULTURE first. They should not be shoved into a system alien to them and their cultural values. And even then, only if they are on the path to citizenship. It's a joke, and it's hard to sit here and watch her upset because a student's father called her a slut for giving his ratty ass brat son a detention.

    Anyway, my .02.
     
  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Likely for the same reason CNN does not report on the Columbine massacre...It is OLD news and no one really cares anymore.
     
  5. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    It's not being reported, because it reads like a chain email. In fact, it is.
     
  6. Papastox

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    But these conditions are still going on in schools on a daily basis. There are plenty of horror stories.
     
  7. JoeSixpack

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    Denial is just another part of the scam.
     
  8. JoeSixpack

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    The invasion of illegal trespassers and the lack of funds to provide free crap for them is a real and current issue.

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    The truth comes from many sources, in many forms, not just the corporate news room. All you have to do is open your eyes and stop believing everything the government tells you.
     
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    The media doesn't report on anonymous chain emails that have been making the rounds for years.

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    The truth rarely comes from chain emails that have been circulating in various forms for years.
     
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    So, you're unwilling to believe what the government tells you, but one chain mail shows up with no sourcing whatsoever for its claims, and you automatically assume that it is accurate?
     
  11. JoeSixpack

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    So let me get this straight, even though the facts clearly show that thousands of teachers have been laid off in California over the past 6 years, due to legislation in place that requires that money go elsewhere because the school system is being overran by illegal alien children, since someone put that information into a blanket e-mail you take umbrage to, it isn't true?

    GTFOH. :roflol:
     
  12. JoeSixpack

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    The truth is teachers are losing jobs in most of the country, and the state of California is going after teachers with tenure now, to even have a bigger savings when they lay off teachers to meet their budgets as required by law. And it is no secret that the country is being over run by illegal aliens that are and have been draining economies throughout the country, especially in the border states.

    Just as an example; Did you know that every child in the San Antonio school district is approved for the free lunch program because there are so many illegal aliens living in the area, it is cheaper just to give everybody free lunches including the millionaires kids, rather than process the applications to find out who is eligible or not?
     
  13. Papastox

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    Ask a teacher.
     
  14. buddhaman

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    Except you haven't presented any facts that support your contention that thousands of teachers have been laid off because the school system is overrun by illegal immigrants. It's just an anonymous chain email making unsupported claims.

    Here are the real facts. The State has been cutting School funding, so schools have been laying off teachers.

    http://www.cbp.org/pdfs/2012/120410_K-12_by_District_Budget_Cuts.pdf

    Lawmakers reduced the annual funding level for K-12 education by $7.0 billion, from $50.3 billion in
    2007-08 to $43.4 billion in 2010-11 – a 13.8 percent drop.4 Lawmakers cut schools’ general purpose
    dollars as well as funds earmarked for specific school programs, often referred to as categoricals.
    Adding to schools’ financial stress, the state also deferred a total of $7.4 billion in payments owed
    to schools in 2010-11.5 The delayed payments, most of which were adopted after 2007-08, forced
    many school districts to borrow and pay interest on loans or make program cuts.

    How are schools closing budget gaps caused by state spending cuts? While many school districts have cut back their
    instructional days and eliminated programs, such as high school class size reduction and summer school, the vast
    majority have reduced the number of teachers they employ. To close budget gaps, schools often choose to reduce
    teaching staff because teacher salaries comprise the largest share of school spending. California’s teacher workforce
    dropped by approximately 32,000 (11 percent) between 2007-08 and 2010-11, while the number of students
    statewide remained steady. As a result, class sizes have increased and the already substantial gap between the
    number of students per teacher in California and the rest of the US is widening. California ranks last in the nation on
    this measure, with the state’s student-to-teacher ratio more than 50 percent higher than the average for the rest of
    the US.
     
  15. JoeSixpack

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    Yes the lack of funding to keep enough teachers around couldn't be a result of the hundreds of thousands of illegal alien students, and the extra resources required to accommodate them. California has one of the biggest populations of illegal alien students, and the costs exceed $7.7 billion there alone (according to 2008 state records) and we are not even including the anchor babies who shouldn't be here either. Sorry I don't have a source you would feel comfortable accepting as the truth, since as I stated before the corporate owned media doesn't cover factual information just political banter and propaganda. But if you want to see something in writing here is something from when the attempt to get his invasion under control in the 1990's went unanswered but it might shed some light into how many illegal aliens are actually here and the damage they are doing to our economy. I only say might because of the denial most of you are displaying. From 1994.

    https://migration.ucdavis.edu/mn/more.php?id=492_0_2_0
     
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    And those...they should report on.

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    I suppose....we should all listen to what YOU tell us?
     
  17. Think for myself

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    Chain emails aren't one of those forms.

    There are obvious drawbacks to illegal immigration, and I don't doubt that many negative results have occurred from the heightened burdens of having ESL students or "anchor babies."

    This kind of sensationalist nonsense in the OP isn't worth much attention, however.
     
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    You may have a point.

    I got an email today that somehow did not make in into my spam folder. Apparently, there a plethora of bisexual college cheerleaders, women amazingly, that want to meet me, a 46 year old man. Do you think it is true?

    Or do you think that something showing up in my in box should be viewed with healthy skepticism?
     
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    This is American and you can choose to be as ignorant and uninformed as you wish. Basically our problem now.
     
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    Big Government is there to help. :D
     
  22. JoeSixpack

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    So where is the proof the opinions presented are not real?

    Ok I am skeptical that it was sent by a real person the second or third time, but it is just a person making a commentary in the beginning. If I didn't know anything about the illegal alien invasion, I might research it more, but since I have seen first hand, most of the things mentioned, it doesn't seem so far fetched at all, even if the person sending it is pretending to be a teacher,, which by the way hasn't been proven either. All they proved was it was sent by several sources.

    As far as the bisexual cheerleaders go, college chicks "are" looking for sugar daddies, and if she has a cheerleader outfit, pom poms, and swings both ways, who's gonna complain if he is a little older than 46 as he claims to be?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/29/seeking-arrangement-college-students_n_913373.html
     
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    I disagree. If it gets people to look into the matter for themselves they will see just how much it costs the states/taxpayers, how much salaries/wages are reduced from overloading the workforce, and how many of them their actually are, something might force them to demand a change.
     
  24. Serfin' USA

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    I would prefer that the stimulus be factual rather than fictional.

    Informing people of issues is a good thing, but it takes a more rational approach.
     
  25. JoeSixpack

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    Although the message is dramatic, and uses a fictional character (at least in the last two examples shown, since nobody has proven the original message wasn't sent by a teacher sharing her experiences) to relay the information, the information is for the most part factual. Probably not to your satisfaction, or with preferential spin on it, but true none the less.

    Whether you like it or not; We are being over ran by illegal aliens and have been for several decades now.They do not help the economy, they flood the job market with illegal employees, reducing the ability for legal citizens to obtain gainful employment that offers realistic wages that meet the standards established by the economy they live in. They drain the system, for the most part in education, but also overwhelm the social programs that are designed to help legal citizens in need. They force taxes, medical expenses, to increase, and they raise the cost of law enforcement, at every level including the prison system.

    Their presence alone far outweighs any and all benefits, and the biggest criminals of the equation isn't necessarily the illegal aliens, but the employers and politicians who are exploiting them for personal/financial gain.

    And last but not least, it is an economical issue, not a racial one. That is the message 'the people" need to be aware of more than anything else.

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    Although the message is dramatic, and uses a fictional character (at least in the last two examples shown, since nobody has proven the original message wasn't sent by a teacher sharing her experiences) to relay the information, the information is for the most part factual. Probably not to your satisfaction, or with preferential spin on it, but true none the less.

    Whether you like it or not; We are being over ran by illegal aliens and have been for several decades now.They do not help the economy, they flood the job market with illegal employees, reducing the ability for legal citizens to obtain gainful employment that offers realistic wages that meet the standards established by the economy they live in. They drain the system, for the most part in education, but also overwhelm the social programs that are designed to help legal citizens in need. They force taxes, medical expenses, to increase, and they raise the cost of law enforcement, at every level including the prison system.

    Their presence alone far outweighs any and all benefits, and the biggest criminals of the equation isn't necessarily the illegal aliens, but the employers and politicians who are exploiting them for personal/financial gain.

    And last but not least, it is an economical issue, not a racial one. That is the message 'the people" need to be aware of more than anything else.
     

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