Cheating widespread amongst American University students from China

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    University professors and employers should read this article.
    Apparently all those Chinese students might not be as smart as everyone thinks.


    If these Chinese students decide to work in the USA, this could greatly affect the value of an elite American universtiy degree.
     
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    There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Those "elite American universities" have already compromised themselves by buying into the current student loan bubble and selling courses that teach nearly nothing anyways.

    Also, what is the value of a degree in a country where you must take that degree to another country where the industry migrated?

    The good old rule applies: the value of your degree is only as big as the old boys network. And the elite is only as elite as the positions the old boys hold in the country you choose to work in.
     
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    The value of an institution's degree is not determined by the students they admit, but by the students they graduate.

    Also, this article ignores the fact that "grade inflation" is relatively common in the States too.
     
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    At the university near where I lived over 70% of the students said that copying someone elses work wasn't cheating. Perhaps the argument should be, why are Chinese students so much better at cheating than American students.
     
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    Well, not only that, but before you get so smug about Asians cheating to get in, your kids cheat all the time.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Cheat-On-a-Test

    Education is very little more than degree purchasing.
     
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    Is there any evidence that cheating is more widespread among Chinese students in America than it is for American students in America? I doubt that there is.
     
  7. Clint Torres

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    The best thing the USA could do with public education is start a mass exchange program. That way the USA can dumb down masses of chinese kids and other kids from forigen countries (like India, Cuba, Pakistan, Japan, Brazil, France Turkey, etc...) early in life so thier kids can't compete in the real world. And the benifit would be the USA kids getting a better public school education in some forigen land and returning to the USA to dominate the brain factories with their multiple language speaking abilities and math & science skills. This could change the course of the USA among the world when it comes to intelligent people. But it must be done on a large scale, very large. And it must be done soon, before the rest of the world understands just how screwed up the public education system in the USA realy is. After all, this would work for about one generation of kids, and the forigen countries would then see how screwed up the USA public education system is and the mass student exchange would come to a grinding halt.
     
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    I teach Chinese students who are going to English speaking high schools and universities five days a week. Some are great, highly motivated, hard-working, intelligent and excited about going abroad. Some are slow, uninterested, lazy, apathetic and don't really care that they're going abroad. On both sides there are those who are being financed or assisted by dirty money, bribes and cheating. (Both parties are happy about missing the Chinese entrance exams though.)

    Conclusion: All the cheating aside, there will be some that perform admirably, whereas others will be a disappointment. Some will do their degrees proud, others not so. Exactly like the American students.

    Excelsior
     

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