Cheering for Muslim entry ban: IS celebrating Trumps policy

Discussion in 'Ethnic & Religious Conflicts' started by Mandelus, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. SvenO100

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    An eye for an eye, my friend. If you cannot behave like a normal person then you should not be treated as a normal person. Take a look at this thread for more of my opinions regarding that matter:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/law-justice/493882-hard-labour-camps-opposed-prisons.html

    People like me are the ones who are standing up for their country, for their culture and for their own people. I do not want this cancer corrupting my country and these backwards and ignorant people pouring in and trying to change my culture and traditions. That's one thing, but you clearly did not understand what I ment with what I said there. Everyone is protesting Trump for what he is doing, but nobody is protesting againt what those sixteen Muslim countries have done. Why are they not protesting that? Why are they not massively protesting against how women are treated in the Middle East? Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.
     
  2. MVictorP

    MVictorP Well-Known Member

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    Exactly like those ISIL guys.
     
  3. SvenO100

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    Right, because I opress women, rape people, enslave people, behead people. Get your head out of your ass.
     
  4. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Only fool believes it? …. Lol

    It could not be that there Muslims, not being member or follower of ISIS or other terror organizations, that now think that the USA is attacking their religion with it? Of course not and only fools believe it?

    Man, wake up and see realities finally! This complete ban is BS pure, because makes America not a spark safer when not a single terrorist comes out of these countries who is responsible for the attacks of the last 10 years!

    Only fools believe that this ban helps for anything to prevent terror in the USA…
     
  5. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Ehm ... what???

    Trump declares this idiotic and useless ban against Muslims out of 7 countries to prevent terror attacks to make America safer ... but it is fact that not a single terrorist who made the attacks of last 5 years in the USA and Europe came from one of this countries.

    So what the hack is the deeper sense then? he can also declare a ban against all people from Venezuela and it has the same effect!

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    Ahhh ... now I understand your intention. Only the general BS blabbering of lefties and liberals are the evil and guilty for everything etc. So worthless empty accusing of your political enemies only as usual.
     
  6. cerberus

    cerberus Banned Donor

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    Have you ever heard anyone say 'But there's always a first time'? It's quite a common phrase, and it means just because something has never happened before doesn't mean in can't happen at some time in the future.
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, you needed it explained after all. Sorry not going to. Its basic common sense. But I wonder why obama had the identical list. Why do you think?
     
  8. Battle3

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    Only a fool believes this immigration limitation - it is not a ban - is going to suddenly make ISIS hate America.

    ISIS and its forbears have literally been at war with the USA for 25 years, long before the USA even decided there was a war, and all the while the USA was bending over backwards with PC lunacy to accommodate muslims.

    Germany, France, and the UK have gone even further than the USA to accommodate muslims and refugees, and Europe is now paying the price in an epidemic of rape and violence.

    Stop believing the propaganda. And by the way, you have enough to worry about in your own country, you should certainly not be telling others how to handle muslims.
     
  9. MVictorP

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    Not you personally, nor your country, but as the Occident, yes, you torture people for decades without a trial, bomb hospitals, bridges, public services an innocent civilians, prop up their corrupt elites for our own convenience and generally mess up with their day-to day lives for more than half a century by now.

    But I am pretty sure you'd be okay with all that if you were Muslim, well aware of your own inferiority and lot in life, huh?

    Peculiar little man. You are the mirror picture of Bissonnette, your "hero" that killed honest fathers when they were praying here in Quebec. Does the police knows where you are? What if I reported your hateful writings to your country's authorities? Yeah, go back under your rock.
     
  10. cerberus

    cerberus Banned Donor

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    Our Home Secretary was saying exactly that in a parliamentary statement the day before yesterday (she also said it would aid IS recruitment, ffs! :wall: ), and it was repeated by our prime minister, I repeat our prime minister at PMQs yesterday. WTF has happened to my poor country that such fools as they have taken it over?
     
  11. Mandelus

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    Unlikely? Boston, Ohio, Florida …
    And Obama started war in Iraq??? It was this gangster from Texas who started a criminal war against Iraq in 2003 which messed up the region totally and where out of this and still during Bush’s presidency ISIS was founded!
    And it does not matter that bot a single terrorist who made the attacks of last 5 years came from one of these countries?

    Tell me…
    Why is not Egypt on this list, because Egypt is home of many terrorists of ISIS, HAMS, Al Qaida and also dangerous Islamists like Muslim Brothers?
    Answer is at least that Egypt government is ally and Egypt military is using 2nd largest fleet of F-16 jets and M1A1 tanks after the US

    Why is not Pakistan on this list, because many Taliban and Al Qaida terrorist are coming from Pakistan or have in Pakistan save haven (remember where Osama Bin laden was killed!) and it is well-known that parts of their services and military is very Taliban friendly and / or supporting them!
    Answer is that Pakistan is an important ally after all …

    This are only 2 of more examples of what can be also done for Saudi Arabia too and others.
    It are at least the people of countries = their population which is in parts hostile and from where the terrorists are coming from and there it does not count of their leading regimes are ally of US or not if Trump is wanting really to save US more!


    Sure, not because ISIS as what this idiot in White House tells, but because Hezbollah. But where is Hezbollah again sitting and having their origin please? Lebanon … and is Lebanon on the list? No!

    All this shows more than clear that the measure of Trump is not only superfluous and pointless! No, above all is Trumps intention about something quite different: punishment for all countries, which are not good enough and friendly enough to the US in his eyes ... well camouflaged as fight against Islamic terror, but where it has nothing to do with at least.
     
  12. Mandelus

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    You want to read real truth and not the nonsense you write here?

    And why is not a single country on list from where the last ISIS terrorist of last 5 years are coming from? Not even the save harbours and homelands of Taliban and Al Qaeda are on the list.

    Makes this list a superfluous racist issue which has nothing to do with terror fighting!

    So what? When 10 out of hundred people who pray to one god are doing evil and maybe 10 further are telling these other 10 are doing OK … but the rest of 80 do not and tell the other do evil , then you will kick out all 100 and declare them as evil. Sure… pure racial behavior of worst evil ages and worth to wear the swastika arm band!

    Strange is that there is not such an epidemic raping and violence existing… only in the fairy tales of the Nazi scum and their followers! Sure, such things happen, but the point is that these single cases are by the Nazi sum reprted and presented as casual situation everywhere, what is only a lie!

    Stop you first believing this Nazi BS Propaganda and we are handling Muslims since 50 years not even pleasing, but much more successful as you did with any minority which are blamed to be guilty for everything bad in your country!

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    Evidence?
    And even he had, why not done? because he has something in head what is called brain, where others in White House now are much lacking for!
     
  13. Battle3

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    Read your newspapers. Cologne has its own rape epidemic.
     
  14. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever heard that someone who want to prevent further attacks is not attacking the source from where the threats are coming from at all, but is only taking focus on other things which could maybe become a same sort of threat?

    If you know that your enemy is sitting in house over the street you take focus on this house in priority and then secondly on neighboring housed to prevent that threats come from there too, eh?
    Or do you only focus on the neighboring house and give a crap on the house where your enemy is for sure sitting?
     
  15. cerberus

    cerberus Banned Donor

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    I'm afraid I don't understand the point you're trying to make. We're not talking about the location(s) of an enemy, we're talking about the intentions of an enemy.
     
  16. Mandelus

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    Read the newspaper correct first ... We had Sylvester 2015 such a case due to stupid police who prevents nothing ... ONE SINGLE CASE which cause consequences after and since then is ONE CASE = EPDIDEMIC???

    In unimportant city of USA police officer shoots by accident innocent man! Answer for your too that "The COMPLETE USA has an epidemic problem with police violence which kills masses of people?
     
  17. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Really?
    What are the intentions of the in note able parts Anti Western hostile thinking people of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, Lebanon, Morocco, Mali, Saudi Arabia ... please?
     
  18. cerberus

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    Again I'm sorry, but I just don't have to time to interpret your posts, and then wonder if you understand my answers: and then you come back to me with unrelated questions because you haven't understood them. Not to worry - it happens on multi-national forums where there are language nuances.
     
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    You pick only one of the 7 countries Obama has bombed and you think that makes a valid point? Obama didn't start that, no, but he continued - the point is still valid, it was a country that has been on a "list" and continued to be on a "list" with Obama, and is now on a "list" with Trump. As are the others.


    Sure. Seems fair, why hasn't it been on the list from Obama. Same reason.


    Again, seems fair. It hasn't been on the "list" for the past 8 years either.

    So these countries have been "protected" for the last 8 years+... and now it's Trump's fault? It seems to me Trump is simply following the normal line of the US.


    Sure, again - so why didn't either party put it on the "attack list" or the "ban list"?

    As I have said this isn't about Trump, this is about the US. Obama can bomb the same countries, but Trump can't ban travel unless there is an ulterior motive that is in Trump's favor only? That's being particularly picky.

    What we need to ask is why the US has been attempting to dismantle or otherwise disrupt certain countries but not others over a very long period.
    Moreover, why are you NOW only just asking this question? Did you support such disguises previously, but now Trump has taken power you suddenly do a U turn?
     
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    There is a huge difference between you and me - I am not telling you how to run your life, or telling Germans how to run its nation. I deal with my problems, you deal with yours. When you have your nation in order, then you can preach to others.
     
  21. Mandelus

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    No time or no willing to understand obvious things?

    Why is not a single country on ban list from where the terrorists are really coming from? What is so hard to understand here?
    On the list are only still since longer more or less hostile countries but not a single one from where the terrorists who have done the last attacks are coming from!
     
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    You don't? Maybe you not personally ... no idea, but:

    Here are so many Americans running around and playing the chief teacher with intention to let us know how bad we Germans and Europeans handle the Muslim threat etc. ... but knowing at least not more as what their BS propaganda quarter knowledge tells them. And you still show with your last words that missing knowledge too... because my country is in order, but yours?

    And if you are so thin skinned as this guy in White House about any critics, then you have another problem!
     
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    cerberus Banned Donor

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    I haven't been talking about the banned countries . . . you and I are discussing totally different issues here. I don't have the time to sort out nuances and nor do I have any interest in the banned countries either.
     
  24. Mandelus

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    Yes, Obama ended this silly by the US started and caused war, because will of majority of US people who were sick about too loose their boys and girls in this sick war.
    And ask yourself why Obama has not done such a general ban then… because he saw that it will bring nothing!

    And why does Trump not put them on the list if Obama did so wrong before?

    Yes, if Trump is really wanting to earn what he tells as reason for his ban, then he will not do the same error you claim Obama did … otherwise you have not to protect or excuse Trump, because blaming someone for an estimated mistake and saving the followers by doing the same mistake by blaming the provious one only is lame!

    Because aside Israel and USA only very few other countries agree that Hezbollah is in general a terror organization. Majority in world does minimum make a split between political and military arm of them and blame only the military arm to be a terror organization.
    Ask yourself why…

    Picky is to put all blame on Obama here … and to reverse the issue of fact that not a single country form where the real bombing terrorists are coming from is on the list = his fault too. Trump is now in White House and if he does nonsense as here, then it is his nonsense only!
    In short: Obama and all his predecessors of Republican and Democrats did not put for example Saudi Arabia = home of a mountain of terrorists on such a list … yes and correct. But why does trump not do this now, because now his job, eh?


    The answer on your question is that it is common US policy since ever and no matter who is sitting in White House to give a crap on such facts: The population of a country can be hostile to the US like mad, does not matter as far as the leading regime is US friendly! More as that … these US friendly regimes can do the worst evil things in their country, does not matter. Only if the regime is not US friendly, such things matter suddenly!
    Moreover … why do I only ask such logic questions after this silly ban? Are these things I ask not obvious enough or what?
    And no … I did not ask for ban before too, because the point is to prevent that the bad people can do bad and not to bash on all people with measure in hope to hit maybe the correct one with it to make my country safer.

    The last German issue in Frankfurt when at big Anti-Terror Raid of Police a Tunisian guy was arrested shows the real problem to handle terror against us!
    The Tunisian was a highly suspicious terrorist in Tunisia, because suspicious to be responsible for attack on a museum in Tunis where 24 tourists were killed and also another terror attack on Tunisian Army. He fled to Germany and asked for Asylum and was after some time discovered who he is. So far - so good. Questions:

    01. Why was the guy not arrested then? Answer: The justice saw no full reason for it, because nothing bad dine in Germany … = idiotic justice who has to learn laws again!

    02. Germany asked Tunisia if they want have him back, Tunisia refuted it, because identity of this guy unclear (because he had no papers like passport etc.) … Ehm, hello?
    When I ask the US “Hey boys, we have here Mr. X at us now. I saw that you search him for being suspicious terrorist”, he will sit 2 hours later in a CIA or FBI plane on the way to Guantanamo, eh?

    Now after evidences were found that he planned something to do in Germany and being arrested for it, Tunisia is very fast for asking to get him back! Strange…
     
  25. Mandelus

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    You are talking about the intention of trump behind this ban, correct?
     

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