Cheney: Russian election interference could be ‘act of war’

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecu...ian-election-interference-could-be-act-of-war

    Who knew that Cheney is a closet liberal?!?! :D

    Only Trump could bring Dick Cheney together with the Democrats.
     
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    Interesting. Finally something that even righties can't spin as liberal bias.
     
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    We can't go to war with Russia, it would be nuclear Armageddon. :eek:

    So we have to take it.
     
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    There is a bridge that is missing its troll thaVader lives underneath...

    Darth Vader Cheney and the Orange liar need to talk. Cheney says it's Russia -
    But the Orange liar:
    “I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK? You don’t know who broke in to DNC,” he said.
     
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    It could be a 400 pound Chinese man sitting on his bed in Russia!
     
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    The big government neocon war monger speaks.
    Charming really.
     
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    We do NOT have to take it. I'll bet dick Cheney said, "the Russian people will throw flowers at our feet" as we march into Moscow.

    Isn't that what he promised would happen in Iraq? He must be right...
     
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    If Russia used the internet to interfere with the electric power grid, to disrupt air traffic control or stock market transactions, this would be deemed an act of war. There are many vulnerable electronic communications systems which are deemed infrastructures that are explicitly protected from cyberattacks, but the electoral system is not included. I think this is because this isn't very well developed. I read about a proposal to include the electoral system as part of the protected electronic infrastructure after it was claimed Russia had interfered with the elections. I've seen no evidence they did interfere, other than these claims they leaked hacked information on Hillary in an effort to support Trump. That would be an indirect interference. I don't think leaking truthful information that is detrimental to a candidate is interference at the same level as would be tampering with vote counting mechanisms.
     
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    There is also the huge amount of money trump has received from Russian sources for many years. It may turn out that the Russians own trump. There is also a LOT of intelligence showing trump's advisors, campaign people, etc., had many contacts with the Russians during the presidential campaign. And many of these people LIED about their contacts with the Russians. Why would they lie if they were doing nothing crooked?

    And now the House Intelligence Committee is doing its own investigation, but its chairman, Nunez, took information he had received and, instead of sharing it with the investigating Committee, he immediately rushed to the White House and gave the new information to trump. He destroyed the credibility of the GOP investigation. Which is why so many people are now calling for an independent investigation. Obviously the republicans cannot be trusted to investigate the matter, they've already screwed that up. Nunes's nose is buried so far up trumps @ss that they have to pump air to him.
     
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    What a friggen idiot - "Act of War". How many elections has the US interfered in since the end of WW2. Were these "acts of war" ?

    US and Russia have been spying on each other for many many decades and it has never been considered an act of war. What a horses arse.
     
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    400 pounds? Sounds like Chris Christie. Maybe it's him!
     
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    Well ... and will declare the status of war with the USA?
    I ask, because the CIA and NSA makes the same things all the time too. But hey ... this are our services and they are allowed for worst things in the world, but no one else?
     
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    And Edward Snowden maybe? Is he living in Russia?
     
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    "
    McCain: Russian cyberintrusions an 'act of war' - CNNPolitics.com
    www.cnn.com/2016/12/30/politics/mccain-cyber-hearing/
    Dec 30, 2016 - (CNN)Sen. John McCain said Friday that Russia's alleged meddling in the 2016 presidential election amounted to an "act of war." ... "When you attack a country, it's an act of war," McCain said of the recent hackings on Ukrainian TV, according to a transcript compiled by Reuters.
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    He is a businessman, and has deals with businessmen in Russian Federation. Equally - I may say that every of them that has deals with Trump is an agent of USA secret services and should be cleared out of government. Because Trump right now is governmental official and has a powerfull leverage to influence them - sanctions, that he may reinforce or relieve - controlling these individuals. Considering how often our businessmen get in politics - de facto that might serve as cause for assuming that Trump may be directly controlling segments of our government. Considering rich history of USA interference with foreign politics, indirectly through support of electoral candidates in South America or directly through military invasions in Middle East - it is highly plausible that USA government might be threading same politics aiming at Russian Federation, especially considering the long history of USA agents trying to disrupt the stability of Soviet Union - that even makes one presume they may have stood behind the failed Coup d'etat of soviet leaders, displeased with liberal politics of Gorbachev - that resulted with third party - leaders of autonomous soviet subjects - RSFSR, UkrSSR, KazSSR, GSSR and others - dissolution Union and changing status of republics from soviet to democratic. There is possibility that rise of Eltzin to power was backed by USA, especially considering the dirty tactics used on 1996 elections, when Eltzin - regardless of his weak achievements in politics - won elections through a massive agitation in media - 'Vote or Loose', copied from the Clinton's electoral capaign 'Choose or Loose', though a massive harrasment in media of his communist opponent Zuganov, launching massive propaganda program with slogans such as 'Buy food for last time', 'Choose freedom or GULAG', along with accusations of Zuganov being collaborating with United States to damage his reputation among supporters for Communist party of RF.
    ...may it be... ...that United States interfiered in our elections in 1996? More directly, than just by releasing data about an ACTS OF CORRUPTION AND ADMINISTRATIVE CRIMES COMMITTED BY ONE OF THE CANDIDATES? That would've not damaged this candidate's campaign, if this candidate would've been innocent?
     
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    Usa is bombing under the squeals about the peace and the democracy. Fu_ing bastards...

     
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    dont forget all the country leaders arround europe and elsewhere vouching for clinton telling everybody that they hope she would win or insulting trump and so on
    isnt that indirect influencing the election to then ?
     
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    We thank you for your ten pounds of speculation. But there are only two things that will always be true:

    1) trump cheated his way into office and everyone knows it.

    2) The USA NEVER, EVER, interferred in any other country in any way. We are exceptional in every aspect. And if you don't believe it, just ask any right winger (but you'll have to wait for them to get off their knees from worshipping trump).
     
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    It is so amazingly stupid (which is par for the course for Cheney). That piece of scum should be in jail (IMO)
     
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    If dick Cheney really cared about America, he'd invite the Orange Turd on a little 'hunting' trip...
     
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    mr cheneys close friends have profit to make in the event of such a conflict. Also, keeping the russians as our enemy is good for business....mr dick is a dinosaur troll, somebody check his wristband and return him to the appropriate facility, he needs his meds.
     
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    Ah, so spying on the US and working to illegally throw an election is okay with you. I assume you have no problem if Trump coordinated with the Russians to do this?
     
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    :roflol: I forgot, who did he shoot again?
     
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