Chicago releases dash-cam video of fatal shooting after cop charged with murder

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  1. JoeSixpack

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    Obviously you just don't live life to the fullest.
     
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    Pretty clever of you, dude.

    However, the measure of our police goes beyond not having shot you.
     
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    This police officer over reacted if what I hear is true - you don't pull the trigger on someone who's face down on the ground- especially after you shot that person. At that point its murder.

    I understand why it happened the officer was obviously, and justifiably, scared. But if you don't have the nerves to control your trigger finger you shouldn't be on the force.

    If its SOP to unload on someone whose charging than SOP needs to change. If its too dangerous for you to not execute a suspect who you have a gun on- get a new job. Budget police forces well enough so that no officer is alone, and don't engage if you think that lethal force is the only way to maintain control over the situation.

    To the OP- I think I get what your trying to do here, but an instance of poor behavior justifies stereo typing as poorly as a mountain of bare statistics- The how and why of what you see isn't explored and thus the meaning you extract is hollow and forced.
     
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    http://chicago.suntimes.com/mary-mi...uan-mcdonald-video-settlement-police-shooting

    The video footage will either confirm or refute this.
     
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    Maybe they just want people to learn how to write.









    inb4 the close.
     
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    What part of this don't you understand? The thug was high on PCP and had a knife. What did you expect the cop to do?!, whether he was black, white, yellow - his skin color doesn't MATTER!

    If a thug, high on PCP and had a knife, went after YOU and a cop was there, wouldn't you expect the cop to protect YOU by taking the knife-yielding thug down? Would lit matter to you what skin color the cop had?

    Quit the racist (*)(*)(*)(*).........
     
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    Bingo. No use proselytizing by anyone until ALL the facts are in. What grinds my gears is that all these Black social activists & ministers are coming unglued over this yet are silent on the overall Black gang violence in the city. I guess there is no money to be had in the latter. :roll:
     
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    Guy was armed and on a violent drug, and assuming he made a move for the officer, case closed. Violent criminal dead and no longer an issue. The color of his skin does not change his actions.
     
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    That still doesn't equate to 1st degree anything. If he did as trained he also isn't at fault. Doubting or questioning can get you killed. Sad but true.
     
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    its obvious if the city did not want to release the video out but the judged ordered it and now first degree murders charges are filed.
     
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    1st degree has to do with premeditated, planned out, etc... Unless the cop got him so he could shoot him on that occasion, 1st degree isn't the right charge.
     
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    Agreed, this certainly wasn't a premeditated murder, just someone who let his fear get to him. If he was acting out SOP, than I agree that he shouldn't be charged because he was doing his job- following crap SOP- the city/ police department and whatever geniuses thought this would be the best SOP- they should be on the chopping block.

    I also agree that doubt can get you killed, which is why he should have certainty that training in less than lethal methods for controlling the situation would grant, as well as the knowledge that he has a numerical advantage.

    To be honest, what I want out of this isn't a ruined career, but for police forces to adopt a less than lethal approach to law enforcement. Sometimes that means backing down until you can engage with clear numerical advantages, and other times it means aiming to maim.

    What I don't want is for police to be so overwhelmed with the situation that they feel that lethal force is the best option. Police ending lives should happen only by mistake, never by design.
     
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    premeditation can occur in an instant is what da's always say, if it's true for citizens, that would include cops too

    the video will tell us more


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    Excuse me but you didint copy the title of the article in the thread title. but since we have mods with agendas I guess its ok to leave it as it. I mean you know others get warnings, but your ok because i guess they dont have some bias against you yet.
     
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    looked like murder to me no. need for pulling the trigger even once.
     
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    From what I have seen so far it does look like this guy was needlessly killed. This cop may be one of the few bad apples. If so the justice system will deal with him accordingly.
     
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    It's called obeying the law. What if it were a white kid that got shot...would you feel the same way. In fact I bet you probably wouldn't of even heard about it...the media would of given it about 10 seconds reporting it.
     
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    Ha.... what a stupid cop.
    The guy, while disobeying, wasn't attacking anyone yet.
    Sad it went down this way. Stay off drugs kids.
    The cop's going down too.
     
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    From the video it looks like they made the right decision to charge the cop. Someone on the forum said recently that bad cops put good cops in danger.

    I think you'll see a lot less of this as police start to adopt body cameras.
     
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    lol, so you suggest that the PCP users all carry guns? nice :)
     
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    Clean shoot. Sorry fellas. When you are armed & refuse to lay down/get rid of the weapon when ordered to do so then you get shot. Period. LEO's are taught the Tueller Drill in all academies:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill

    Rahm threw the LEO to the wolves. The officer will walk as any good attorney could plainly see. The LEO followed protocol. i.e., drop the weapon when ordered by LE or suffer the consequences.
     

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