Chicago releases dash-cam video of fatal shooting after cop charged with murder

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  1. Sane Centrist

    Sane Centrist Well-Known Member

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    I haven't bothered to read the full story because as we all know it's silly to jump on whatever is in the paper today because by next week the events that night will have changed a thousand times by a thousand different witnesses that will mostly be dismissed come trial time.

    Also we all pretty much know this cop will never see the inside of a prison cell, as the lives of black people in this country mean absolutely nothing and millions will break their necks to support the cop because..........well.......he's a cop.

    The family will make a statement and there will be the usual suspects that will come out in protest (that won't fix or change anything) the way they have since the 60's but of course they'll all be dismissed as media hounds looking for attention.

    Even though they've been on the front lines of almost every civil rights issue since the very beginning........while most of you weren't even born or cared to know anything about civil rights.

    Blacks have never, will not now, or ever in the future receive anything remotely resembling justice in this country.

    There have been Black Law students, Black Med students, Black Engineering students and even children not old enough to have records that were all killed, and none of their killers have yet to see what the inside of a prison cell looks like.

    But, hey, what the hell, they probably all had it coming to them right, they would have all wound up growing up to be nothing more than dirt bags so why be upset?

    I "had" a very dear uncle that owned his own business, raised two good kids and was in a solid marriage for close 23 years when a drunk driver mowed him down while he was walking along a road after the drunk closed a bar one night 20 years ago.

    The guy that ran him down (I will not mention his race) has yet to see the inside of a prison cell, my dead uncles wife has yet to see any justice.

    Just another day in the good ole US of A.......

    Banter back & forth amongst yourselves if you must but please don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining regarding the justice system in this country.
     
  2. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    One would be hard to argue the shooting wasn't justified. The report was the person was acting erratic, he looked to be doing so, he had a knife in his hand and appears aminmated, we don't know what he was saying. And then he makes that sudden spinning around motion where he could have thrown the knife at them.

    It's the shooting after he is down I have a problem with. In reality he was probably a dead man before he hit the ground, but the shots while on the ground are problematic for the officer.

    And have we heard any of the people on the street or so-called leaders state the obivious, if you are going to act erratic and weld a knife and do not follow the commands of the police there is a high likelihood you will end up dead.

    Why aren't we hearing about that, why are the protesters acting as if the punk was must minding his own business.

    How about condeming young black males who act in this criminal manner and give police added fear for their own safety.
     
  3. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We charged him with murder. What, you want to shoot him right now?

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  4. BringDownMugabe

    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    I can only imagine what the other cops were thinking when they fellow officer unloaded 16 shots into this guy walking around threatening nobody. Does Illinois have capital punishment (referring to lethal injection ordered by the courts -- not blindsided head shots while in public)?
     
  5. jones343434

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    all the white police officers there lied haha
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    The protesters are demanding the other six officers be charged too......................for what?

    Once again the "protesters" turn it into the theater of the absurd.

    And the young punk Fox was showing getting into the officers face in a threatening manner trying to star him down, the officer there to protect them and the property around them who had NOTHING to do with the shooting. THIS is how you ease tensions with police and create a better relationship? I can imagine what was going through that officer and what he now thinks about these people.
     
  7. Korben

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    White, white, race, race, wow play the race card much.

    I don't understand why people don't get this, cops on the whole are not racist, very few are. The only color cops see is blue, blue is their race, blue is their gang, they are the blue team. Everyone else is nothing more then not blue. For the most part the only people that care about race are those that want special treatment, mostly the activist blacks and hispanics.

    As for the shoot, was it over the top, yes. He could have tried some more to find a solution that the thug could have survived. The thug was down after a few rounds, the following dozen rounds was too much. That said is it a legal shoot, borderline and I predict an acquittal, the legal line is 21' and the officers couldn't let him keep going. They had to stop him somehow as he was clearly a threat and would not cooperate. Nor should the officers have to accept undue risk to subdue him, tazers don't shoot far enough.

    If we are going to Monday morning quarterback this thing they should have hit him with a car like that Marana police officer did.
     
  8. jones343434

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    You obviously don't know the story
     
  9. Korben

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    Pretty sure that was the initial result/reaction to being shot.
     
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    You obviously had nothing to say in response.

    Like I said earlier, your original accusations of a systemic wide problem with white cops are false. Not only do you have no proof (or even evidence-isolated incidents among the thousands of cop/criminal interactions a day is not evidence so don't make that argument), but the facts suggest there's no problem at all.

    You are the racist in this thread. You have made claims against an entire race based on color alone w/o proof to back it up. You need to own up to that, look in the mirror, and make some changes because you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
     
  11. jones343434

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    What are my claims?
     
  12. toddwv

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    Sounds more like the cop was the feral thug in this case. From the video, the cop deserves a long stay behind bars.

    We don't need dangerous trash like him running around armed.
     
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    Do you always take the side of the oppressive police-state?
     
  14. mudman

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    Well, you made them so you should know. But since you're going to play ignorant, here's a few.

    "Why does why race have problem with other cultures" Despite your poor typing, you've accused whites of having a problem with other cultures.

    "white people have history of this" No they don't. Isolated incidents are not indicative of a history of violence.

    "it's the fact cops racial profile blacks and harass blacks" Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime, that doesn't make it profiling. Also, this is a statement about all cops which is blatantly false.
     
  15. Korben

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    What makes this borderline where Tueller's 21' may not apply is three factors. The knife wasn't of weapon size reportedly 3", the perp wasn't progressing towards anyone, and the officer closed the distance not the perp.

    An arrest clearly needed to be made, force was clearly warranted in making that arrest, and it was quite likely it was going to be a violent arrest. Was it likely that one way or another the perp was going to be hurt yes, was it that time yet, no.
     
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    If that's an example of what they are taught then they all better get retrained. These are cops that should serve and protect not James Bond license to kill.
    Clean shoot?!! What would a bad shoot look like? Was South Carolina a "clean shoot"?
     
  17. jones343434

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    You obviously no nothing about the American history of white people
     
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    This is an Internet forum and not a court of law. Remember how everyone rushed to judgement on Trayvon, the "gentle giant". etc., etc., without knowing Jack Schitt about the law? I repeat: when a LEO tells you to lose the weapon you comply. This is just a clear case of Liberal politics as this happened in 2014. Rahm Emmanuel threw the LEO to the wolves as he is a DemocRat and caved in to the BLM idiots. Ask yourself why the Lib Mayor waited for over ONE YEAR before doing this? This is all political so as to take your eyes off the real ball in "Shootcago": Black gang members out of control and a Lib Mayor/Admin.'s refusal to admit it's a cultural problem.
     
  19. mudman

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    And you obviously can't respond to my post.

    That itself is all the answer I needed from you.
     
  20. WillReadmore

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    Actually, it's being called "murder".

    Guessing about the future like that is the direction of a loser. It means absolutely nothing and demonstrates you're running on empty.

    But, if you want to search for a case where a police officer got away with shooting a white kid 16 times including in the back while lying on the ground, go for it. You might find one, and I'll be ready to discuss it.
     
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    You should watch the dashcam video.
     
  22. Korben

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    How about right here in Seattle, Deputy Paul Schene, the one made famous beating up the 15 year old girl previously unloaded on a man on I-5. He emptied his gun into the completely unarmed white man with IIRC 11 of the rounds entering the his back.
     
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    Pretty brutal, isn't it. I wonder if the DA charged him with 1st degree because he knew it wouldn't stick though. It was murder, but proving premeditation is going to be tough.

    Warning, some people will find this video disturbing. Police-state apologists will claim the cop acted in self-defense by emptying 16 bullets into a twitching corpse.

    [video=youtube;Ix2N6_jLAgA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix2N6_jLAgA[/video]

    The events leading to the murder start at 5:13.

    The guy was laying on the pavement after being shot and the cop just kept firing round after round after round... nothing but a piece of garbage in a badge. And to be clear, I don't think all cops are like this trigger-happy POS, but with the ubiquity of cams increasing in the public arena, it seems that America's dirty little secret, one that minorities have been begging for remediation for years, is being dragged out into the light.
     
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    You're right in that the video I saw was edited and did not show the LEO shooting him on the ground, which would have been fine if the perp had a gun still in his hand.

    However, there is a bigger problem with this. Why did the PD only fire the officer after a court order forced the city to release the video OVER ONE YEAR after all had transpired? The city had also already paid the decedent's family $5 million. The reason is that the incident happened on the eve of ObaMao crony Rahm Emmanuel's reelection bid for mayor. If I were a Chicago resident I would be screaming for the mayor's head as well as all involved in what appears a cover up MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    There was a similar case where two black cops shot up a white guy and killed his kid for no reason recently. That case didn't get as much attention. The obvious truth is that police violence is a minor issue compared to other forms of violence in the US.
     

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