Chicago releases dash-cam video of fatal shooting after cop charged with murder

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  1. Ryriena

    Ryriena New Member Past Donor

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    I don't think he was shot because, he was black because their have been whites that have been shot while running from police. But from the video it does look bad for the officer as he had his back turned from him and was running away from him thus the cop wasn't in danger. Although, I think he was shot for disobeying the cops like the many others cases like this incident. It's like Eric Cartman when he becomes a cop. [video=youtube_share;k1vKDM7wfiA]http://youtu.be/k1vKDM7wfiA[/video]
     
  2. Bastiats libertarians

    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    I supported the cop in Ferguson. This cop is guilty of a bad decision. If the guy was making any kind of advancing move towards the cop I would say he was innocent. But the guy was actually moving away. Gross negligence, voluntary manslaughter for sure. I don't think you can make a case for premeditated though. It yes that cop is guilty of a bad shoot
     
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    I do not disagree, but the real problem here was a person hopped up on an extremely powerful drug, and a cop who for whatever reason, went a bit too far after the situation should have been considered closed. Today it is pretty obvious that cops are fearful, and for good reason. But all altercations with police officers shouldn't have to end in a violent altercation. Like you I believe the training is in need of some changes and updating.

    They may be getting away with such overcharging, but premeditated means to plan ahead, it is not supposed to be considered for immediate/reactionary actions. He was reacting to a situation. IMHO and should not be charged 1st, but possibly 2nd or manslaughter if the evidence proves it.
     
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    Wow, you read my mind, inaccurately of course but at least you took a shot. :wink:
     
  5. JoeSixpack

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    Ignorance and PC rule.
     
  6. ArmySoldier

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    What a racist question. That would be like me citing the FBI's UCR showing that black people commit more murders than white people (4,201) compared to (4,101) when black people only make up 13% of the population. What are black people going to do about that?
     
  7. ArmySoldier

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    Correct. If they charge him with murder1 they'll lose. The media will pressure the prosecutors and they'd better not give in or else black people will be very mad when he gets off.
     
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    I agree with you, just saying if DA's have changed that standard, it should apply to everyone equally, even cops

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  9. jones343434

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    Better Education system to keeps blacks from drug crimes....now your turn
     
  10. ArmySoldier

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    Black people are currently bettering the education systems? Show me these statistics on how this is now helping the murder rate committed by black people.

    Right now your post just says "I'm guessing that would help".

    Plus, what the heck does drugs have to do with what I said? I cited murders committed by black people. What are black people doing to stop this madness committed by only 13% of the population?

    Please answer the question this time.
     
  11. REPUBLICRAT

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    Probably would have made sense to walk toward the cop instead of away from him if the goal is to kill him with a knife.
     
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    Shameful. In a nation of "due process" we have scumbags celebrating the murder of this man. He has rights no matter what law he broke. This animalistic savagery makes me sick.
     
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    lol Here we are again with conservatives wondering why Americans hold police officers to higher standard than gang members. Smh.

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    It's so embarrassing.
     
  14. Ddyad

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    What are the odds of a black male being murdered by a white cop?
     
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    Don't know. I don't care that he was black either.
     
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    Laughable. The more money spent the worse the outcome. What exactly is a "better educational system" anyway? A better question is what are you going to do about low IQ, low impulse control and little future time orientation within the inner city schools.
     
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    Then why is this an important issue?

    The cop has been charged with murder - right?
     
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    Completely irrelavent. That it happens at all to anyone is a travesty of injustice in a nation where everyone has the same right - innocent until proven guilty.
     
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    You are struggling to excuse murder. I have no respect for that.

    Down your route we need no court system. The police simply kill offenders where they find them, and bury them on some wild west boot hill. But, that was a crime even in the bad old days.
     
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    The cop has been charged with 1st degree murder and I suspect he will be sent up the river for a long, long time.

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    Did you see the vid? He wasn't within 40' of a cop, nor was he walking toward a cop.
     
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    No, they are not. They are trained to use the minimum force necessary to protect themselves. None of the other nearby cops fired a shot.
     
  22. QLB

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    Wrong on both accounts. Training entails stopping the threat. That is the goal and is pretty much always the same no matter the training methodology.
     
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    WTF video were you watching? He was about 10 ft away from 2 cops. The length of a traffic lane. Shots fired AFTER he went down is the more problematic part. He went down like a rag doll. No getting up from that. No way in hell he's getting first degree. Do you even know what that means? It was a legitimate shoot, guy waving hands around with a knife and not responding to commands, ON PCP. His movements were erratic for sure.

    Again, this is the kind of person people are defending? A drugged out loser who would've killed someone eventually anyway? Who knows how many he's robbed in his life.

    I'm STILL waiting for an actual innocent, harmless black man to get shot for absolutely NO REASON what so ever. I'd like to see Alvarez react when a raving lunatic is waving around a knife 10 feet away from her and see how quickly she shoots when they lock eyes. People ALWAYS seem to think you'll get a perfect shot off when someone lunges at you with a knife. You nail someone on PCP in the shoulder and they could fluff it off and keep coming, which is why you EMPTY the clip....or get a blade in your neck.
     
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    My point exactly. He was already a hardened street thug. No telling how many people were saved. It's not exactly like he was going to become a rocket scientist or a neurosurgeon.
     
  25. ArmySoldier

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    Just following up on my response to your deflection. Or are you now seeing the facts?
     

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