Chick-fil-A location at DIA paused after Denver Council cites chain's LGBT stances

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  1. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    So what, how is that illegal? I don't like the KKK but I believe in free speech while apparently you don't as you want to use government power to censor anyone that disagrees with you.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if you don't support the radical gay agenda you are full of hate.
     
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    please source where I wrote it is illegal.

    This isn't about free speech. This is about a company who uses money for a hate campaign to make some people 2nd class citizens.
     
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    When you don't care if say the Jews are treated 2nd class, and do not support a fair treatment for all,... than yeah.... it is hate indeed.
     
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    Uh.......yes it is in fact about free speech. The only reason the government should get involved with zoning is if its illegal or doesn't fit with the zoning restrictions ie residential or business. SCOTUS ruled in this in Waukesha v Some Porn store because the city didn't want a porn store downtown and Waukesha lost. You are supporting Denver's decision which is in fact an illegal decision.
     
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    To say what you want to say is free speech.
    To lobby that governments treat some people as 2nd class, is not about free speech.
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    Then you believe that the KKK shouldn't be allowed to hold rallies either then because they wanted certain people treated as second class. SCOTUS has ruled on that and your ignorance of what free speech is on full display now for everyone to see.
     
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    There is a FAST... FAST difference in speaking your mind... and the action of treatment of some people as second class.
    One is about speech, the other is about treatment.
     
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    KKK advocates that blacks, Jews, Catholics and whoever else are not entitled to the same rights. People opposed to gay marriage advocate that gays are not entitled to marry like straights can. There is NO distinction other than what they specifically opposed. Both of them are protected by free speech. When Chicago tried this exact same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) they immediately caved when threatened with a lawsuit because even their own city alderman admitted they would lose.

    This story has been played out already and once a lawsuit is mentioned Denver will cave because they are the ones in fact violating the law.
     
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    What is so hard to understand that speaking your mind is one thing,
    and doing what is on your mind and change things is something else entirely?

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    Then tell me how Chik Fil A DID something to prevent gays from marrying? All that happened was that the owners gave money to groups that advocate against gay marriage, that is it. That is NOT illegal MOD EDIT - Rule 3.
     
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    Read the link in the OP.

    Last time I checked they found it illegal to treat homosexuals differently.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3/Reply to Deleted
     
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    Show me what they specifically did that was illegal. I want an actual example.
     
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    do you support incestuous marriage?

    Yes or no


    do you hate incestuous couples that want to marry?

    Yes or no
     
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    No more treated as second class citizens than the majority of Americans who are not married are treated as second class citizens.
     
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    Those people freely choose not to marry and to be treated accordingly, where the homosexual community was refused that choice. And if its up to Sharia Christian squad, than they go will be put back as 2nd class citizens. Rather odd I need to explain that there is a difference between freely choosing and not getting that choice.
     
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    Nitpicking??? I tore apart the basis of your point. Marriage between two closely related people is marriage between two closely related people. Incest is sex between two closely related people. What I am describing is NOT incest.
     
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    No more than heterosexuals were refused that choice. No more than two closely related people who wish to marry, were refused that choice and their preferred choice.
     
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    The "Mile High" city of Denver has sure turned into a mess since passing that legalized pot amendment hasn't it? Now even the city counsel is smoking the stuff, and if reports out of there are true, they probably are buying the stuff in alley's, because the taxed pot shops product is too expensive. Great place Denver, won't be on one of the gay friendly city lists in America ever. As for Chick-Fil-A best chicken sandwich ever, creme-de-la creme of fast food, and a Christian company to boot, which closes on Sunday's. Leave it to a political organization to turn down a $600,000 dollar profit because of chicken......... .
     
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    You're nitpicking about marriage =/= sexual relationship. I know there is a difference. But to claim a marriage is just a platonic bound between 2 friends,.... not buying that.
     
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    Starts to be very dull to keep mentioning that incest and homosexuality have nothing in common. That you comparison is like hearing a 1950s idiot saying pedophiles and homosexuals are all and the same, or a some fanatic racist saying interracial is like bestiality.... and that your opinion is on par with the flawed reasoning of a backward 1950's idiot and/or a fanatic racist.
     
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    How does a brother screwing his sister affect you? (dang, that sounds like "how does two guys having sex affect you")

    why do you hate people who just want to marry who they love?


    How can you call Dan Cathy a bigot for not supporting you wanting to marry your same sex lover, but not think it's hate when you don't support #Siblingmarriages

    pretty telling of your agenda
     
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    Revealing, marriage cant be limited to men and women as the only couples with the capacity of procreation because married couples are not required to procreate, because we allow couples who don't have the ability or willingness to procreate, to marry, because marriage has nothing to do with procreation. BUT marriage must have everything to do with sex, otherwise the arguments for gay marriage would fall apart. Even though married couples are not required to have sexual relations, even though we allow couples who don't have the ability or willingness to engage in sexual relations, to marry. That marriage limited to men and women, in order to improve the wellbeing of children that only heterosexual couples produce, is unacceptable, but marriage limited to couples in a sexual relationship, in order to give them a stable household in which to engage in those sexual relations is perfectly acceptable. Our societies priorities are all screwed up when not offending homosexuals takes precedence over the well being of children.

    Orgasms simply dont present a situation where government would even need be involved. This 1000s of year old institution of marriage didn't arise because men and women were having orgasms with each other. It evolved because when men and women have orgasms, children are frequently the result.
     
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    That's against the law in 49 states. The more relevant question would be how does the marriage of two closely related people who have joined together to provide and care the children of one of the couple, affect you? More children being raised by two closely related adults than there are children being raised by gay couples. And just to take this idea of incestuous sexual relations out of the picture, make it two people of the same sex. A single mother and a divorced or widowed grandmother is one of the most frequent alternatives to children with their mother and father.
     

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