Child abuse.

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  1. Brett Nortje

    Brett Nortje Well-Known Member

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    "Child abuse" is a act where children are abused and hurt and perform sexual acts with adults. this usually would occur when the child is under thirteen, of course, as then the child is defenceless. calling child line is easily done after the act, but what if there was a way to stop the act al together?

    Before you barbarians start calling for some form of 'assault,' there might be a better way. the person that is abusing the child is trying, usually to relive stress, yes? this would mean that because of other people, the child is abused because the other person stressed them out. the obvious solution to this is for all members of the family to be nice to each other, and as dad and mom gets home they should ask them about their day and play a role in listening to them if they are in a bad mood. while doing this they should remember that there are financial problems for the parents, problems they cannot help with and that the parents really worry about. keeping their job might be where they are put under heavy stress in keeping their jobs, yes?

    So, why not buy a paper and show their parents 'the job openings?' nothing is as satisfying as fr a parent to know that their children are worried too, and want to help as much as possible. i know, from myself, when i look through the job ads i get settled very much, of course. maybe this would help?

    Then, there is the loving cup of coffee, something that the child or mother could make for their parents, and tell their parents that "this is for a hard day's work, thank you." this should not be done every day, as then it will lose it's affect, only when you can cut the tension with a knife, of course.
     
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    I think there is a prerequisite loss of humanity and empathy involved in child rape, and typically an active desire to corrupt and destroy. Rape is rarely about sex, and overwhelmingly about power, and child rape (the desecration of innocence, destruction of growth, theft of happiness) is a manifestation of the most profound type of evil against a conscious being, the 'grestest' power. Sex is meant to be the creation of life. Sex with a child turns that beutiful creative power into its polar opposite, corrupting it to utterly destroy life.
    Child rapists are not 'stressed.' They delight in evil. They are the physical manifestation of demons.

    Its no coincidense that the evil, manipulating powers of this world, the ruling class that control global politics by shifting money around to starve regions and desolate populations with war *also* turn out to be pedophiles, raping children to death in dungeons, cherrishing their abandonment of hope and essentially feeding off of their released life energy. There is an evil force on this world that delights in the purest torture- the destruction of the human soul.

    For what better way to be powerful -to become a god- than to destroy Gods greatest creation: the free will of the human soul?
     
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    Skruddgemire Well-Known Member

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    Child Abuse is not just sexual abuse. In fact in America we call that by its own classification of "Child Molestation". Child abuse covers
    • Physical Abuse - highly debated as to where the line between reasonable physical punishment (spankings, smacking the wrist, etc) and physical abuse is
    • Psychological Abuse - spurning, terrorizing, isolating, exploiting, corrupting, denying emotional responsiveness, or any nonaccidental verbal or symbolic acts by a child's parent or caregiver that result, or have reasonable potential to result, in significant psychological harm to the child
    • Sexual Abuse - That's a pretty obvious one.
    • Neglect - failure of a parent or other person with responsibility for the child, to provide needed food, clothing, shelter, medical care, or supervision to the degree that the child's health, safety or well-being may be threatened with harm
    And 13 isn't the magical limit.

    No. There is no one cause or factor behind child abuse. This can come from...
    • Substance Abuse
    • Parents being abused themselves as children
    • Anger Management/Impulse Control issues.
    • Lack of maturity in the parents
    • Unwanted pregnancy
    • Overwhelming need to dominate someone
    • Stress
    • Mental disorders like "Ring of Fire" (a condition where when a person gets angered...the brain can't turn off the anger as easily so they tend to stay angry)
    And that's just scratching the surface of the possible reasons that people will lash out at a child.

    Again no. I have had a friend who fosters children taken away from abusive situations. Trust me...those children tend to do whatever they can to avoid situations where the parent(s) get angry. They'll be very quiet and submissive in hopes that they won't trigger the parent(s) to lash out at them.

    One of her foster children would wash each and every dish that was used as soon as they were done with it. This was because the stepfather would lash out if there were dishes in the sink. Even if it was only a single fork. Because of that the child had a near obsessive need to clean any dish used out of fear.

    That's just one example of how a child will try to stay below the radar so they don't get more abuse.

    You are correct. In a healthy parent child relationship...seeing a child willing to help is a comforting thing. But you're forgetting that in cases of abuse...a lot of it comes from other issues. A parent who has a good paying job and can easily support his family but has stress management and impulse control issues can still lash out at a child in moments of stress. I've never abused my children, but when I was doing my taxes I have been a bit short tempered with them and ordered them to go outside and play and to leave me alone until I can finish.

    Someone with anger management, stress management and impulse control problems might actually lash out and strike the child.

    Again in a healthy relationship...this is a good thing. My own children bringing in something from the store just for me (even if mommy paid for it) lifted my spirits. But this can also be a behavior of the abused children as well to stay below the radar. To try to appease the abuser to try and keep from being abused.

    The problem here is that you are trying to apply a simple cause and a simple solution to a very complex problem. Believe me if it was that easy...we'd have solved it long ago.
     
  4. Brett Nortje

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    Typically, the women and children that will be abused will be shouted at first, while the abuse is still taking hold - i cannot see someone going from a loving parent immediately to a person that hits on their families 'just because.' when men get drunk, they know what they are doing, so, there is no excuse with this drunkenness being a viable reason why the father or mother is abusing the children.

    So, a cry for help may be in order? the best way to get this going well, is to collect all the families of a street into phone calls, just to say hello, and, then the parents will be conscious of being 'part of a society.' fearing being thrown out of the society, hell, even looking bad, might be a good deterrent to the parents of this collected communities. if you feel your parents are abusing you, run to your neighbours, the plans are in place, of course.

    But, if that does not work, for some unseen reason, then maybe breaking a window during the ordeal - actually stopping the case of abuse - would alert a neighbour or something to that effect.
     
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    Now, let's broaden this to include all forms of violence? how can we stop violence in general? is it possible? i know it will not be as simple as breaking a window, but, maybe if the person being assaulted was to 'scream,' scream at the person to stop, maybe we could refine a new technique from this?

    If the person was known to the victim, then maybe we could simply fake a mental attack, where we pretend to 'hulk smash' or get some sort of manic strength, where the victim would jump around and scream, totally freaking the assailant out? this would call on social structures, where the fight would look stupid to the assailant, and then they would distance themselves from you.

    How do men and women drive people away? these social structures hold true for all people - they 'do not want to look stupid.' this could be where you pull your pants down or make snarling sounds - anything to put the assailant into a position of shame, shame at being around you, or, as if they were abusing some sort of mentally challenged person, of course?
     
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    You're forgetting the children of abusive parents. They grow up in an unhealthy family environment and don't know that anything else exists.

    Just as someone raised in a healthy and loving household will often grow up and recreate the environment when they have children, so to do the abused when they grow up and have children of their own. They are raised in abuse and so it's what they think is normal.

    No. It's not an excuse and it's certainly not a valid reason. However...if the abuse comes from alcohol and the abuser is an addict...then what is needed in that household is to get the abuser off of alcohol and get them help.

    Most of the time the abusers don't care about society. I've seen abusers dragged away by the police screaming their fool heads off about how "That's my kid and I'll raise him/her however I want!"

    They don't care. And when you factor the other reason I mentioned...
    • Substance Abuse - Can't prevent abusing the substance due to the addiction and are no longer thinking clearly enough to care about society.
    • Parents being abused themselves as children - They grow up thinking that this is societal normal.
    • Anger Management/Impulse Control issues. - Can't control their actions
    • Lack of maturity in the parents - Without the maturity...they don't understand societal norms.
    • Unwanted pregnancy - If they're teenagers...they're already ostracized by society. If not...they feel that society doesn't care since they didn't want to have the child and they were pressured by society to not about the child and when the child came to term society really didn't help.
    • Overwhelming need to dominate someone - They don't care and take steps to prevent the abused from telling anyone.
    • Stress - Can't control their actions when they hit the breaking point
    • Mental disorders like "Ring of Fire" (a condition where when a person gets angered...the brain can't turn off the anger as easily so they tend to stay angry) - Can't control their anger since it rises quickly and cools very slowly.
    A common trick for abusers is to tell the abused child "If you tell anyone, what happens to you then will be FAR WORSE than what I do to you. Pedophile Priests tell the children thus abused that they will go to hell if they tell anyone (this is after they describe hell in graphic detail), neglectful abusers tell stories about even worse neglect in the foster care and child welfare systems, physical and psychological abusers use a combination of "If you tell your punishment will be worse than you've ever faced before" and "You think I'm bad? You wait until you see what they'll do to you."

    So...the children are conditioned not to tell.

    Stopping the cause of abuse is like stopping the cause of illness. You can't because there is no one cause. There are causes that are unique to each abuser. All you can do is to identify the abuse, remove the abused from the abuser and to get the abuser help and/or punish them appropriately.
     
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    None of what you describe would have helped me when my cousin was attacked by her ex-fiance. When he attacked, he was no longer thinking rationally. All intelligence thought left his eyes the minute he pulled out that knife and tried to stab me.

    Jumping out and going "Ooga-Booga" wasn't going to do anything. I had to fight violence with violence. My cousin and I spent 3 hours in the ER, the assailant spent the better part of a week in hospital.

    Social structures don't hold true for all people. Ever hear of "Counter Culture?" Groups who go out of their way to live differently from societal norms? And that's not counting the societal differences from one culture to another. What's a societal norm in one country can be abhorrent in another. Look at how much of western civilization is freaking out about Sharia Law.

    You're looking for simple answers to complex situations and that is not possible. You can not apply one solution to a problem that has many MANY causes.
     
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    Stopping the abuse will bring about an inquiry, and, it can be dealt wit from there. this way of mine stops the actual act and allows time for the therapy and other things you list.
     
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    But how do you stop the abuse if you don't know about it? Remember that the children are often conditioned not to tell. And how do you detect psychological abuse? It leaves no obvious marks. How do you tell the difference between a psychologically abused child and one who is simply shy, reserved and quiet?

    Then there's neglect. Sure if the neglect involves food it might be obvious...but just not nurturing the children at all. How do you detect that to stop it?

    There are multiple forms of abuse each with multiple possible causes (often times more than one). Stopping it is like stopping illness. You can't. You can't slap a single solution bandaid on a problem that has countless causes.
     
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    You have not to mix physical abuse of the child and what you call "sexual abuse" because of completely different reasons behind this actions. Reasons behind physical abuse you understand pretty well, but "sexual abuse" can be caused by the fact that one of the parents is pedophile and have sexual relationships with his own child because there are no other children available. In some cases this two different types of abuse can match it the same family, but not necessarily.
     
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