Child Separation "Issue" Is Democrat Scam

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    YES, it is.....for the poor....why TF do you think they're so desperate to come HERE!

    Crossing a border through dangerous territory with just about nothing but the clothes on their backs to face America's warped idea of justice....


    WTF, did you think they just wanted a VACATION ???!!!!


    Most of them, yes, WHY DO YOU THINK they take such desperate measures to get HERE?

    Because they want a vacation ? YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THAT QUESTION YET?










    WTF does that have to do with how Americans are keeping kids from their parents and locking them in cages???








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  2. MMC

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    Really, what did he do with the kids that weren't brought by parents or a relative. What did he do with all those kids that weren't brought by any adults. Just sent over the border.

    Here is where it all started.

    https://www.aclu.org/legal-document...ettlement-agreement-plus-extension-settlement

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/1236.3

    Blame Bilbo Clinton!

    Its time the leftness started blaming those responsible.....That would be Mexico. Step up for once in your lives and Show Mexico that Poutage. Show them those cries about the.....Children. Sniff sniff.

    James Brown said.....Say it loud and Say it Proud!
     
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    Sure they are.
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

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    Yes, typical rightie. I vote and stay informed about who's running. You do know he's running against Cruz, right?
     
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    And again
     
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    Sometimes, but more often it was "catch and release". Up until two months ago, we were choosing not to enforce our immigration laws as written, and immigration advocates were teaching people how to game the system by claiming asylum when it was not truly applicable. Now we are enforcing our laws, most specifically ending catch and release. The current situation is the natural consequence of proper enforcement, and it will quickly prove an effective deterrent if left in place. If it isn't "pretty", and it hurts our soft little hearts (endangering their children themselves doesn't seem to bother these parents!) to house children separately from their parents, then Congress needs to get off their collective butts and change the laws.
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

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    And yet you still rely on fake news and hearsay. Oh well, I tried.

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    Good question.. when did it actually start?

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    Incorrect---funny you told me how impressed you were with my list of sources in another thread---Oh, well---how soon you forget! just saying--
    Yeah,any piece of news that doesn't gush all over the dictator wanna be (trump) is considered fake news---
    This is happening now,if trump wants, he can reverse his policy, but ,if his latest (this morning June 19,2018)"bully" pulpit tired old campaign speech is any indication, he is calling "all" these asylum seekers illegal drug smuggler's,rapists--Yeah,he will do nothing, because he enjoys being a wanna be dictator----
     
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    I was watching the congressional hearings today about the IG report and suddenly goofball Cummings goes off on a rant about the border nonsense. LOL!

    The dems have become like that homeless guy you see on your way to work. He is yelling at a tree for no reason. Does anyone take these idiots seriously?
     
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    LOL... Spin is suggesting Chicago is the reason for our incarceration rate. It's conservative policies that lead to it. The war on drugs in particular. Democrats failing to resist it is not the same as being responsible for it.
     
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    That's what happens when you decide to break the law.
    Whether you're an illegal alien caught at the border, or just a plain old criminal your family and your children suffer for your criminal ways.
     
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    1. Nations can set their priorities. Given unlimited money not every nation would build more prisons.

    2. Sheer idiocy. Immigrants, even illegal immigrants, commit fewer crimes than natives.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...lly-commit-more-crime/?utm_term=.b8c488385870
     
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    Same as with parents.


    They went to foster homes until parents could be located in other countries, or they stayed in foster homes.


    Here is where it all started.

    https://www.aclu.org/legal-document...ettlement-agreement-plus-extension-settlement
    [/QUOTE]
    FROM YOUR LINK:

    "Every effort must be taken to ensure that the safety and well-being of the minors detained in these facilities are satisfactorily provided for by the staff." Page 8.

    Release to parent, legal guardian, adult relative, etc Page 10.

    "Provide for the minor's physical, mental, and financial well-being". Page 10.

    Prompt and continuous effort toward family reunification, Page 12.

    Maintenance of up-to-date records of all minors. Page 16.

    These are things trump is violating with Sessions' "Zero Tolerance" rule. But you pretend the cruelty was legislated by Democrats!!
     
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    FROM YOUR LINK:

    "Every effort must be taken to ensure that the safety and well-being of the minors detained in these facilities are satisfactorily provided for by the staff." Page 8.

    Release to parent, legal guardian, adult relative, etc Page 10.

    "Provide for the minor's physical, mental, and financial well-being". Page 10.

    Prompt and continuous effort toward family reunification, Page 12.

    Maintenance of up-to-date records of all minors. Page 16.

    These are things trump is violating with Sessions' "Zero Tolerance" rule. But you pretend the cruelty was legislated by Democrats!![/QUOTE]
    You mean because Trump is obeying the law? Your precious Barack had 8 years to fix it. Your precious Dem controlled Congress didnt address it in 2009... why are you just now crying about it?
     
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    LMAO....That's the Demos prosecuting. In Control and able to change State Law. Especially having had Demo Governors and Controlling the State and City government.

    Trying to blame the Repubs who haven't been in control is disingenuous.
     
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    Unless your sources are congressional websites, I doubt very seriously I was impressed.

    But thank you for helping prove how this whole issue is a Democrat scam by your desperation to convince us otherwise.
     
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    FROM YOUR LINK:

    "Every effort must be taken to ensure that the safety and well-being of the minors detained in these facilities are satisfactorily provided for by the staff." Page 8.

    Release to parent, legal guardian, adult relative, etc Page 10.

    "Provide for the minor's physical, mental, and financial well-being". Page 10.

    Prompt and continuous effort toward family reunification, Page 12.

    Maintenance of up-to-date records of all minors. Page 16.

    These are things trump is violating with Sessions' "Zero Tolerance" rule. But you pretend the cruelty was legislated by Democrats!![/QUOTE]

    Yet its already been shown in the Thread that is what they are doing. Links are up. Fact checker is up.

    But then like most leftists after a few pages have flipped over they think people forgot about their narrative being knocked down and torn apart.

    Zero tolerance applied to a law that's in effect. Rather than ignoring the law and creating loopholes.

    When will the Leftness start blaming Mexico.....the Real one to blame?
     
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    Well,your comment is here on the forum,you can go check!
    Can't convince you to have compassion there SMW--Heavy Sigh! Shouldn't have to!!!
    Yup,everything is a Democratic Scam,everything is OBAMA'S fault,OBAMA made trump cheat on his wife,OBAMA made trump be cruel,OBAMA made trump screw people,OBAMA made trump file (how many) bankruptcies,OBAMA made trump call women fat pigs,ect,ect,ect---Yup,nothing is trump's fault, nothing is trump's responsibility, if he can't handle the heat, get the Fu## out of the kitchen---Instead of blaming everyone else for his failures(including) his fake Presidency,tell him to man up---
     
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    Under what conditions?

    Were they presenting themselves at the border for asylum?

    You do know that the family break up POLICY that Trump is engaging in is a new policy...right?
     
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    Immigration experts we spoke to said Obama-era policies did lead to some family separations, but only relatively rarely, and nowhere near the rate of the Trump administration. (A Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman said the Obama administration did not count the number of families separated at the border.)

    "Obama generally refrained from prosecution in cases involving adults who crossed the border with their kids," said Peter Margulies, an immigration law and national security law professor at Roger Williams University School of Law. "In contrast, the current administration has chosen to prosecute adult border-crossers, even when they have kids. That's a choice — one fundamentally different from the choice made by both Obama and previous presidents of both parties."

    Denise Gilman, a law professor who directs the immigration clinic at the University of Texas School of Law, said immigration attorneys "occasionally" saw separated families under the Obama administration.

    "However, these families were usually reunited quite quickly once identified," she said, "even if that meant release of a parent from adult detention."

    In Trump’s case, family separations are a feature, not a bug, of the administration’s border policies, said David Fitzgerald, who co-directs the Center for Comparative Immigration Studies.

    "The family separations are not the small-scale collateral consequences of a border policy, but rather, a deliberate initiative," he added.










     
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    Maybe their parents shouldn't break the law.

    Are you saying we shouldn't enforce the law just like the OP said?

    That's what you are saying isn't it?
     
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    Yep, Obama simply released illegals into the US so the family could stay together.

    Why even have a border control, hey if you come with kids just walk right in.
     
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    Yes, its a new policy TO ENFORCE THE LAW. You do know he doesnt make laws, right?
     

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