China’s playing the long game, and is making key moves to hedge against Trump’s tariffs

A huge market for things made in china

That does not benefit America at all

 

As long as we have a $350-$500 billion trade deficit with china its all bad

Practically everything we import from them now was made in America before

 

In the 1800s plows were made in America

What youbare ad ocating is that America be a supplier of food and raw materials to china while the6 produce all the value added products

Thats insane

But even though china is trying to hurt American farmers I dont think they can long term

As the world population grows the need for food grows also

So dont throw in the towel and surrender to china too quickly

 

Who said I wanted US companies to do business in china?

As long as china is a communist dictatorship I would rather our companies not become entangled with china any more than they already are

And I dont want our high tech companies involved with china at all

 

You have wandered on to a different conversation. What does the above have to do with the Trump admin making unreasonable demands ?

Our trade relationship with China is not "all bad" - that comment is as absurd as it gets. We benefit greatly from trade with China .. more than China benefits than US if you run the numbers - which I have done for your previously which makes your comment that much more absurd.

 

So why are you so worried about them wanting the US to have a Chinese partner.
Look. I get it. You don't like China. I don't think the world cares, but why do you keep making dumb arguments when you could just say China bad.
Here, I'll give you a number. #8. Just type that instead of some baseless argument.

 

You have not offered a single trump demand that is unreasonable

And your claim that Ametica benefits greatly from trade with china is bs

 

Having a chinese partner opens a window into US technology for china to exploit

They learn all our secrets of manufacturing and then export finished goods back to the US using that technology

 

I keep telling you. If your afraid of that don't take your company to China. They don't make you go there.

 

I see it from the perspective of an American who will always be an American and cares a out the future

For the CEO of an American company who may not even be an American by birth all that matters is his immediate future with the company that pays him in stock options and may be gone in 5 years

 

china was 2nd largest importer of US goods before trade war, so yes they are a huge markets, that's not even including US company making **** load $$ in china. Furthermore their middle class is growing much faster rate than US.

 

lol apple is made in china. tim cook is born and raise in Alabama, can't be more red than that. its doesn't matter who the ceo is or where they born, their loyalty is to the stock holder and maximize the profits. that's capitalism. the way you saying its like how some china state company run things, they never make profit and is not competitive against private firm, its socialism.

 

It is. China floods Universities, Left Wing DC Think Tanks and politicians with cash, and the entire Left carry water for the Chinese in every US/China dispute.

 

Well, that post didn't age well.

China Waives Tariffs On 16 Types Of US Goods In Latest Attempt To 'Sweeten' Trade Deal

For the first time since the US-China trade war began, Beijing has waived import tariffs on more than a dozen US goods...


Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump
“China suspends Tariffs on some U.S. products. Being hit very hard, supply chains breaking up as many companies move, or look to move, to other countries. Much more expensive to China than originally thought.” @CNBC @JoeSquawk

3:14 AM - Sep 11, 2019

 

https://slate.com/business/2007/08/what-s-behind-the-latest-trend-in-foreign-born-ceos.html

Send Us Your Tired, Your Poor, Your Business Executives
Why are big American companies hiring foreign-born CEOs?

 

I don't know, but our company just dumped one. Culturally he was from country with a strong Caste system and whereas most CEO mingle and greet with the line and field staff during visits, this was a concept he didn't grasp. For him, a Harvard graduate to shake hands with a Blue Collar worker? Never going to happen. Very smart with the numbers, not a glue on the interpersonal relationships required.

TRADE WAR A WEAPON AGAINST CHINA’S SPY WAR:

…China’s intellectual property theft is more than tax theft. Since the spying robs U.S. institutions and corporations of products and royalties, over time it becomes a form of trade theft, a long-range, indirect attack on U.S. future productivity.

Stealing knowledge may have immediate payoffs, but the drain on future productivity eventually contributes to weakening the U.S.

Seeding key American corporations, research and educational institutes, and media organizations with people China can influence or blackmail might eventually weaken American will to counter Chinese imperial adventurism. The U.S. has the political will to contest China’s slow invasion of the South China Sea. However, after 20 years of funding research and buying influence, America might not be so willing.

The bottom line: ” To counter China’s pervasive threat, the U.S. must attack China’s money — it’s economy. The time to do that is now.”

 

Yes, one tactic of china is to compromise America from within using dollars they collected from our trade deficit with them

They are aggressive on so many fronts including the south china sea that it overwhelms the senses

Having American corporations in china compromises them in many ways and does very little for America

 

From your link:
Cancer drugs, lubricant oils and a handful of chemicals which China either doesn't produce itself or can't easily replace by buying from other countries made it on the list.

 

Like Nike, who pays a couple of bucks to essentially slave labor, to make tennis shoes they sell for $300, while they virtue signal to us about how our Betsy Ross Flag is a "Slave Flag"?

Ram 'em with Tariffs, Trump!

 

And Nike can serve the interests of its masters in china by donating money to globalists in America to fight trump

 

You were the one that claimed there were no unreasonable demands. My point was simply that you had no basis for your claim - you gave one anecdotal example - when the trade deal consists of many many things .. most of which you are unaware so you do not have enough background to make such a claim.

We do benefit - we sell all kinds of agricultural products to China - which benefits our farmers greatly. You are talking crazy talk.

 

You want me to prove a negative?

I dont know of any unreasonable demands by America

But if you do lets hear it

 

I did not ask you to prove a negative. I merely stated that I am confident that you do not know enough about the Trade Agreement to make the claim - "There are no unreasonable demands".

Am I willing to do some research to prove your claim wrong ? - perhaps at some point but it is not a pressing issue for me.

What I would like you to prove is that you can go for more than a few posts without making defacto claims when you know you havn't done your homework well enough to make such claims .. often just repeating Establishment propaganda narrative as if this has some relation to the truth.

 

I wont argue with that

Its a very complicated subject

What would you have me do?

Assume my country is in the wrong just because you say so?

 

I never made that claim

But you did claim that some US demands are unreasonable when you clearly had no idea what those demands are