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The deal was not submitted to the senate as a treaty to be ratified and made permanent US law

Thats why it was so easy for trump to pull out of it

 

I have tried to be patient with Tom

And now you

See my remarks just above this

 

Of course not. The deal was still in negotiation. There was no executive order as you have twice falsely insisted. You're acting like a high school kid.

 

Meh, shows what you know.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...e-agreement-because-it-never-actually-joined/

 

The topic of the day is the Trans Pacific Partnership, not the Paris Accords. Try and keep up.

Not that Trump didn't shame himself over the Paris Accord either. This is the first time in nearly a century that the United States has stood as outlier to world leadership. Not since the US Senate failed to ratify the Versailles Treaty has the US stood so isolated from world leadership.

 

Why would you be proud to be a leader of lemmings?

 

When one president negociates at treaty and submits it for ratification it becomes law

Obama didnt do that because he tried to get by on a handshake only

But his scheme depended on President Hillary Clinton going along with the deal and making it a fait accpmpli

And now we know how that turned out

 

Donald Trump has not entered into negotiations with any country, nor has he submitted a single treaty to the Senate.

Of course, none of this has anything to do with the false claim that you made (and repeated) that the Obama adminstration had issued an executive order with regard to the TPP.

 

Why would you be proud of being backwards and left behind?

We all know how well isolationism turned out the last time the flat earth types drove US foreign policy.

 

We lead the world in carbon reduction. Why are you so eager to give away taxpayer money?

 

Trump has been in office less than a year

But ratification in the senate is the proper way to deal with trade agreements and obama failed to do

 

No he didn't.

 

Because the electric power industry is running, not walking away from coal burning power plants. Something the Trump Adminstration would like to reverse.

What does taxpayer money have to do with the Paris Accords?

 

Really? We are supposed to pay for other countries reduction of carbon.

 

I have long been a huge fan of electricity being used as the power source.

But the thing about coal is that it is cheap, widely used and reliable.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/advantages-disadvantages-coal-fired-power-plants-boiler-sun-jinfang

 

Coal is in steady decline in the United States.

This has been going on since the great Coal Strike of 1901. While coal production increased in the last century, its share of total energy production gradually dropped.

While coal may be cheap to get out of the ground, it requires a large an expensive infrastructure to handle.

Unlike natural gas, coal requires a railroad, crushing,screening and handling faciliites, and generates a huge quantity of waste, which must be handled.

It is also dirty.

The days of coal as a the dominent source of fuel for the electric power industry is already over.

 

I am afraid I do not share your vision of coal.

Clinton deliberately put the Grand staircase Escalante off limits. He banned the best of all coal. Clinton confiscated state lands and Utah was forced to turn the property over to the Feds.

Sure, when official government policy gets going, things happen. Such as coal production falling. Coal burning technology is to the state that dirty coal can be safely handled. Factually it is so cheap today and so abundant, that but for the Feds, we would use far more of it.

Why do i favor electric cars? I favor them provided a few caveats are designed in. I favor fuel cells over batteries. I know of motor designs that work well when you power the auto per wheel. A motor per wheel using the proven design of Le Torneau works well for me.

Yes, coal does move by rail. It is good business for railroads. We need to stop trying to engineer the economy and make use of what nature handed to us.

 

I am not sure where you get that from. All of a sudden, railroads, handling equipment, slag heaps, crushers, screen decks, and miles of conveyor belts magically disappear, and coal meets all of its air pollution targets! Presto chango!

The electric power industry is running away from coal as fast as it can. In the age of rate deregulation (at least in parts of the country), they are running away from anything requiring more than a few years worth of capital investment. They don't' want to be saddled with high cost infrastructure with high operating costs.

Natural gas plants can be built quickly and cheaply. So can solar and wind farms. Coal and nuclear cannot.

 

But for government interference, nuclear is far better. Some countries have made excellent use of nuclear. Though we have proven nuclear is superior, we for some odd reason restrict it to military purposes.