China has already lost the trade war

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, sure--I'm going to review what I learned in my university training. :rolleyes:
     
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    Sure. :) Maybe we could borrow the money from the Chinese to pay back the American consumer for the tariffs we put on Chinese products. Perfect.
     
  3. LangleyMan

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    Would you like to actually discuss the real issues facing the Chinese economy? I'm not prepared to follow you down a rabbit hole where you pretend their economy is 'fake."
     
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    The manufacturing "give away" was supported by BOTH political parties. On the Republican side, it was justified by "free trade." On the Democratic side, it was more "academic" and based on the "Post-Industrial Society." The reality was the shift of the American economy from corporate dominance to Wall Street dominance and the "Shareholder Value" movement. Companies, enabled by technology, left for lower labor costs and the promise of new markets abroad.
     
  5. Pycckia

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    You claim to be a teacher, but you don't teach. Why should I credit your posts as anything more than TDS?
     
  6. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    Yes, why don't you actually discuss the real issues facing the Chinese economy? Do you actually know what they are?
     
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    something has to be done to reduce corporations from foreign outsourcing and reduce consumers from buying overseas

    we can not survive as a society if most of the the jobs go overseas and most of the money goes overseas too - but we also need exports, so there has to be a balance

    I think Trump is handling it badly, but I think it's needed

    the one positive about Trump, is that he has got many republican to agree, now will they still agree under a dem President, who knows
     
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    read again, not sure why you keep insist on china GDP is inflated


    oh not argue the manufacture jobs, those are business decision made by coporate, not china. if not china it will be india or Vietnam or elsewhere. you should blame US multinational rather than china/india/Vietnam.
     
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    unemployment is 3% what you talking about no jobs lol
     
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    sadly that number is fake and too many do not get paid enough and still live below the poverty line

    do you support low wages, excessive foreign imports and excessive foreign outsourcing?
     
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  11. LangleyMan

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    I should donate my time gratis to you? Why?
    I comment on what I see. How you take it is up to you.
     
  12. LangleyMan

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    With someone who insists their economy is "fake?" Uh huh.
    Do you? :rolleyes:
     
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    and your link that prove is fake? I support free market. are you saying we should stop imports and end up like NK.
     
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    never said we should stop imports, I said we should reduce excessive imports and excessive foreign outsourcing - I am an American though, other countries may differ in their opioions
     
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  15. LangleyMan

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    What's your plan? We have full employment without bringing back work that pays $2/hour overseas and then protect domestic production by labor at $20/hour with tariffs.
    We're doing okay for the moment.
    But not this way.
    Trump can't be effective unless he wins over moderates.
     
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    you and I may be doing fine, but sadly many Americans could be doing better

    corporations are selling this country out

    yeah, Trump may not be able to get it done, but he has gotten many republican to support Tarrifs that never did in the past, so maybe under a dem we can work on this in a bipartisan way

    what I fear is Trump is so desperate for a deal that he just makes any old deal and we will have gone through all this for nothing
     
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    Please continue... I'm the only one so far who have given any form of evidence, links, videos etc
     
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  18. LangleyMan

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    Americans are better off working at jobs paying $20/hour than bringing back low-skill factory work that we can get done for $2/hour overseas.
     
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    You offer propaganda.
     
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    yes, some jobs will not come back, but some should, especially the foreign outsourcing to places like India, outsourcing all our tech jobs to India is a national security risk - those that control the data have the power

    think self driving cars, ect... India could shut us down with the flip of a switch
     
  21. Pycckia

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    Because we are having a discussion and you are already donating your time gratis bloviating the above BS. It takes no more time to say something intelligent, assuming of course you have any intelligence.

    And what I see is content free. You might as well hire a monkey to do your typing. It would be just as enlightening.
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    Some jobs and industries are a national security issues. Different matter, however.
     
  23. LangleyMan

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    I'm not unpaid help. Get a clue.
    You: [Woof, woof]
     
  24. FreshAir

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    well at least we agree India controlling all our IT jobs is a national security risk
     
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  25. LangleyMan

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    Okay.
     

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