If you read their philosophers it starts to make more sense. America was built on the ideas of John Locke and Thomas Jefferson who, in laymens terms, think "humans are good" and can rule themselves. Communists build their ideals of Engels/Marx, which in my opinion come from Hobbes. They state that basically, "humans suck and they need a great power to lead them". With Hobbes it was "The Soverign" or king, with Engels and Marx it is "The Proletariat" or chosen group by Communists. They preach collectivism instead of individualism, 'materialism' instead of idealism (believing people are the things they own, not the ideals they hold) and many other horrible ideas that do nothing but spread hate. The biggest one is the materialism though, it makes them break everyone down with identity politics, trying to divide each group and spread hate. It's all very easy to read and clear to understand, we just let these Communists take over all means of information in the last 30 years, so people like Gift don't even see they are doing it. Or he/she actually IS a Communist. It's hard to tell sometimes....
Again, you said nothing but personally attacked an idea. Communist Deconstruction tactics at work folks
Lets stick with WWII It was costly but America won the war The trade war with china will be costly But not as costly as doing nothing
I already did, you are just trying to ignore it. I clearly stated "Making money is not better than the good of America" You ignored it and said "I am making money like a good Capitalist wants" See what you did there? That has literally nothing to do with what I said, in fact, you are actually just flat out using fake discussions to build a straw man discussion. MAKING MORE MONEY FOR CORPORATIONS IS NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA. I DISAGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT CAPITALISM. Now, do you have anything true to say? Or just more fake BS, meant to attack America and Capitalism? Please go on, you are building walls around your argument to the point of looking incredibly foolish. It's making me believe you are actually just a paid Chinese or Soros Communist, since you can't back up anything with facts, just fake statements that I never said
Explain what on earth you are trying to say por favor. What point are you trying to make. We all know that 250 Billion is the number on the balance sheet. The question the post is trying to get at is what that number means. Only an economic idiot makes a dollar for dollar comparison with respect to the value of that dollar figure to each nation.
WTF are you talking about? Foxconn supplies most of the expensive parts for iPhones for example. Last I heard they are a Taiwanese company.
Easy there, that is too much common sense and too simple an argument for them to deconstruct. This is usually where the disappear....
No, you didn't. I am fine with this discussion ending as such. You have been thoroughly embarrassed to anyone who isn't already a full on Communist. My job here has nothing to do with your fake stories, it has to do with showing people how stupid your fake stories are Have a good day!
The electronics are not produced in a vacuum Money is invested Factories are built, workers are hired Money changes hands many times in the local economy which benefits china not America
You are painting this black vs white .. all vs nothing Paradigm that does not reflect reality .. and the WW2 analogy is terrible. There are good aspects and bad aspects to the Trade war - and I have said this to you numerous times. We should be striving for maximum benefit - which means there will be give and take .. as a win win for both is always the best outcome in a negotiation.
Bahahahahah Look at how you are trying you best to deconstruct the argument and FIND ANYTHING that you think may be bad. Meanwhile, ignoring his argument that "it was costly but not as costly as doing nothing" hahahahahahahaahahahaha
This is not only about trade We are in a geopolitical world war with china and should do as little as possible to benefit their economy
So, are you trying to say your argument is really with corporate America and not with China? Lets say we moved all the stuff we buy from China to India. Would that be okay, or would you be ranting about Hindus?
They used to be Taiwanese You cannot do business in china without becoming part of the spiders web And the same will happen to GM
Nope, we FRY the Chinese Communist along with the Western Communists like yourself who back them. 100% tarrifs, the companies are already changing their business models which will take a hit. But in the long run, America will be much much much better off. I know you keep trying to ignore Mac's argument, but we simply don't care what you Communists think. 100% tariffs on China are coming and comments like yours are helping me to spread the message that it needs to happen. So I say you are a real stable genius Here's to you mr. Communist trying to argue against freedom on the internet!!!!!!! (background singing voice "mr communist tryyyyyinnnnn....."
YES!!!!! Thank you, you are finally getting it! Who owns corporate America? Google, Purdue, Facebook, Media ---- All heavily invest in Democrats and Chinese gvmt politics. Feel free to take a look at this video talking about people leaving cities. But in it, is a great article by the NewYorkTimes showing that HYPER RICH PEOPLE ONLY VOTE BLUE NOW, the media is lying to you if they tell you otherwise, even the NYT has admitted it. Corporations are using Chinese slave labor to get rich, screwing over regular Americans. And here you guys are, backing the corporations ..... great Progressives you are. And yes, it would be ok if we moved to India, have you even paid attention to what Trump and supporters want? We want free trade, no stealing of IP, no trying to subvert our nation with Communism Those are all things China does, India does not. Any other clarifications you need?
Again, an example of Deconstruction Trying to subvert the conversation on one single issue, instead of following the conversation in good faith with what the speaker is referring to. Philosophical circles have laughed at this tactic, most calling it completely ridiculous and circular thinking. It has only worked in Communist circles and Media corporations trying to control peoples thoughts. Sadly, with the media, academia, Hollywood and YouTube/Google/Facebook, the propaganda especially for Millennial has just been too overwhelming.
The details of which I have explained to you in numerous post. Trump is making some very big blunders on the geopolitical chessboard - and we are already paying the price. This is not winning .. and it is not good for America.
Did you actually say anything other than "I disagree with you, you are dumb for not listening to me" Do you understand how debate works?
As long as international trade is conducted in the US dollar, the American economy as a whole doesn't suffer from trade deficits, even if particular individuals and industries do. That is as long as America's paper money is given full faith and credit, with people having faith that the government issuing the paper money (or its equivalent, US bonds, will be around), and as long the volume of international trade in the dollar doesn't exceed America's trade deficits. On the other hand, if and when people lose faith in the US dollar and move to other currencies for international trade, or if and when US trade deficits reach such heights that they exceed even the volume of overall international trade in the US dollar, then America's paper money will lose its value.
Darn right it is! And why does the world put faith in America? Because we are not authoritarian and people trust we will continue to do the right thing. Funny how this has started to change with the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations isn't it? Trust in America is coming back, no matter how many Communists want to try to say otherwise. There is a reason the dollar is stronger than ever in the world, the global economy is being re-programmed by populists.
And here I thought I heard Trump saying his objective was to bring those jobs back to America. Well, yes here it is. So in reality it is you that has a communist bent. You want to tell American companies where they can do business.
