China Is Detaining Muslims in Vast Numbers. The Goal: ‘Transformation.

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  1. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hello,

    That's not a secret on that forum, that I'm Islamophobic, however I think that kind of things is very sad. Europe and China incarnate two extremes, western european countries let ISIS terrorist come back after all the atrocities they come back and barely defend themselves against terrorist attack, China answer to the problem with an excessive brutality.
    None of those models are valid, and another one have to be created.
     
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    1. My great friend, if I were the Chinese President, I would adopt America's so-called "Indian Nations" model in dealing with the ethnic Uighur Muslims. Look at the American natives. Where are they now? They are the forgotten people in the world. It's a matter of time they will become extinct.

    The goal is not transformation. Just like animals seemingly left with a lot of freedom to roam in the forests, they will be forgotten, decayed and extinct in the end.

    In proposing the creation of another model, you seem to be unaware that it has already been created somewhere in the world -- in the US. In fact, it is the most extreme and excessive in terms of brutality. China is using indoctrination (of the mind) without violence or body harm. The third model -- the US model -- subjects Muslims to more fears, insults, attacks and hate crimes, particularly after the ascendancy of Donald Trump.

    In short, it is akin to the persecution of the early Christians during the Roman era.

    2. According to https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...hetoric-widespread-among-candidates-trump-era

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    The 2018 midterm elections have seen a dramatic rise in anti-Muslim rhetoric, a new report has found, as political campaigns are emboldened by Donald Trump’s ascent to the White House.

    The findings demonstrate the depth of anti-Muslim messaging ahead of the 6 November vote, tactics that echo attempts to inflame fears around immigrants and people of color.

    “We’ve seen anti-Muslim candidates running in every region,” said Scott Simpson, public advocacy director of Muslim Advocates, which commissioned the report... (End excerpts)

    3. "Muslims in America have been subjected to more insults, attacks and hate crimes in the last two or three years than ever before, specifically more than after 9-11."

    — Omar Rachid on Saturday, July 21st, 2018 in a San Antonio Express-News story

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/omar-rachid/statements/

    https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...uslims-more-attacks-hate-crimes-than-ever-be/
     
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  3. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    They are handling the problem the only way it can be done.
     
  4. VotreAltesse

    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Acting like slugs and carpet like the western euro isn't a solution, but I don't think it's necessary to become that violent.

    @reedak That's a logical backlash from all the islamic violence, it's not a fair one because among the people it target, there is some that are innocent.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    I suppose you have a solution.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Extreme violence, but on a smaller number of individuals, the one actually linked with terrorism.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    So you have ten people, all reading the same terror book.
    How do you decide which one will commit terror.
     
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    VotreAltesse Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, the one which have jihadi propaganda. Terrorists which commited terrorist attack must be executed then burned and their ash gave to porks, the same for the one which left to Syria. And for other problematic people, you don't have to kill them, just exile them.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    The religion is Jihad propaganda. All of it.
    Do we just kill the Muslims caught with the Qur'an, and sunnah.
     
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    By the way we don't.
     
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    You are talking in circles.

    Figure out what you want to say, then say it.
     
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    That's quite clear, don't go in a blind killing spree, just execute the one in a relationship with an organization like Daesh, Al-Qaeda and so on.

    I will say something that will surprize myself : but even if I'm convinced of the noxiousness of Islam, most muslims don't think that jihad is something that is something to do today, especially as terrorists to.
     

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