China is erasing its border with Hong Kong

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  1. Thingamabob

    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you are saying that it is China (and not the U.S.) that is the No 1 threat to peace and freedom in the world? And you base that notion on the fact that China is reinstating its' culturally and historically and internationally & politically accepted territory ... hence bringing its own Democratic principles to Hong Kong?

    And while we are on the subject, what Democracy did the U.S. encourage in Vietnam? Iran? Nicaragua? Cuba? Irak? Libya? Syria? Grenada? The Ukraine? And now Venezuela? Oh! That's right! I almost forgot! The U.S. undermined and/or destroyed Democracy in those nations. Or as you might say "smothered democracy" in those countries. So why is it again you do not believe the U.S. is the No 1 threat to peace and freedom in the world? Personally, I think you ought to rethink your logic.
     
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    It happened over 170 years ago and has nothing to do with today
     
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    At the moment china is not using its military advantage for naked aggression

    Unless you count tibet or the threat to Taiwan

    Or the islands in the south china sea

    But as chinas economic power grows so will its militsry

    And china does not have the western values of free speech or elected bovernment
     
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    But you can see the parallel? No?
     
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    If Hong Kong being taken over agsinst its will by a communist superpower isn't our business, then nothing that happens anywhere around the world is our business.

    Hmmm remember when Germany annexed Austria Hungary?
     
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    No
     
  7. ronv

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    Figures.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    Because them 2 are right wingers.

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    That's adding a famine.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution#Death_toll
     
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    And the people in Austria were cheering when the Germans marched in. Adolph Hitler was Austrian you know? When Prussia's Bismark took over the German principalities and united them all into one country, he left out Austria probably because they were Catholic. Yet their common language and heritage was strong enough for Germany to support Austria in WWI - something which shocked the Tsar. He would never have entered the war had he known.
     
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    nazi's and fascists are far right wingers, champ. I didn't make it up. You want a source?
     
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    I can accept all of what you say but those little tidbits of examples you bring to the discussion table do not equal the numerous and vast geographical areas that the U.S. has been terrorizing. In other words, the title of "Biggest threat to world peace" belong fair and square as the pronoun to the U.S.
     
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    NAZI, National Socialist Workers Party.
    The Facists have always been left wingers.

    Now a days the acronym would be Global Anti-capitalist Activist Party. Yup the GAAP.
    Even has a catchy ring to it. I chose the word activists party because "worker" doesn't fit AT ALL.
    There is a simpler name for it. Worldwide Communist Expansionism. Modern leftism is all about breaking down everything traditional, funny thing , thats exactly the same as old timey leftism.
    Just as incompetent as the Bolsheviks too.
    Kill the rich people and take their stuff.
    Marx may have polished it up a bit but that's all leftism really is. They have no ideas beyond that.

    It's not even about the redistribution of wealth. It's about the consolidation of power.
     
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    The Taiwanese are not cheering.
     
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    Oh, I don't think they are to worried.

    Bilateral trade between China (including the mainland, Hong Kong, and Macao) and Taiwan in 2017 reached $181.76 billion, up from $35 billion in 1999. China is Taiwan's largest trading partner, accounting for more than 30 percent of the island's total trade, according to Taiwan's bureau of foreign trade.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
    National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP)—in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar aims. Nazism is a form of fascism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
    Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism


    Sure buddy.
    Keep trolling
     
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    Well said

    Socialist leftiets can also be called progressives
     
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    Taiwan trades with china but does not want to be part of china
     
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    Wilipedia is an authority on nothing
     
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    Well. Now we understand why you are so confused. You use wikipedia for a source. Next thing we know you will be trying to pass off CNN as unbiased.
     
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    You might want to revisit this.

    Someone?
     
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    It wasn't genocide or deliberate, but it happens when 'ideologues' make themselves gods and become the arbitrators of what is and what should be. That millions will die for their 'illusionary' utopia doesn't matter, for it's all for the ultimate 'good' - which is nothing but the enslavement of mankind into their own mold.

    Today we have that with Soros' liberal new world order and that of the other Washington ideologues. In order to impose this liberal 'utopia' on the world, they will assassinate, force regime changes, have false flags and bomb people from here to eternity. But don't you know, it's all for the ultimate 'good'.


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