China's oppression of Tibet

Discussion in 'Asia' started by waltky, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. reedak

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    Uncle Sam has taken pains to build an image of a good guy with such values as freedom, democracy, etc.

    But thanks to you, you have unashamedly exposed his hypocrisy and made him look like a hooligan refusing to pay his debts.

    You have forgotten my satire at http://www.politicalforum.com/humor-satire/336240-sam-we-trust.html
     
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    Yang Guifei may be gone, but her beauty lives on. It's readily apparent on the streets of Beijing, Xian, Shanghai, Hangzhou, Suzhou, Guangzhou, etc.

    I think we are the only ones who understand what that means. Few things are as sad as dying in vain.

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    He's a typical American of the current era. I wish you had known Americans of past eras. They were a better group.
     
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    Yang Guifei stands as dead cold, stone statues in those Chinese streets, but the dream gal of Hong Kong is a warm-blooded, living human being.

    Do you expect a march of the dead to IS, particularly after a Republican president takes over the rein in the next election?

    Well said. I am still waiting for your answer to my question on "White America Policy" in another thread. Don't you think the Americans of the current era would be as good as those of past eras if the US had adopted a "White America Policy"?
     
  4. Albert Di Salvo

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    Whites can be corrupted by the forces of American leftism as can anyone else. The enemy is leftism.

    There will be no more marching to death.
     
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    In my opinion, if the US had adopted a "White America Policy" from the very beginning, North America would be a second Europe with many states of different European races, cultures and languages waging wars with one another. Just imagine the new states of Germany, France, Italy and Russia grabbing at one another's throats on the new continent.

    Hence, the British master of the thirteen colonies was wise not to import cheap labour from Russia and East Europe but shipped slaves to America from Africa instead.

    If IS could survive Hak Kwai in the next 2 years, chances would be high for the Americans to put boots on the ground for another march of the dead.

    Following are excerpts from the September 4, 2014 article headlined "CNN asks: How do you defeat ISIS without putting boots on the ground?" at http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/c...-putting-boots-on-the-ground/article/2552840#!

    (Begin excerpts)
    General George S. Patton Jr. said in World War II that wars “may be fought with weapons, but they are won by men.”

    He was referring, of course, to leadership and the integrity of soldiers.

    But there’s another interesting truth in that quote, something clear from the times of military strategist Sun Tzu.

    The infantry, that is, men on the ground, will never be obsolete, because living, breathing soldiers will always be required to ensure the success of any armed conflict.

    With that in mind, the question for the U.S. is this: If the White House officially recognizes the terrorist cell ISIS as a wartime enemy, does the U.S. land “boots on the ground” to ensure the destruction of the murderous group? Or will President Obama unwisely delegate the chore of ISIS’s destruction to America’s military technology?

    This question has dogged White House officials for weeks as ISIS’s influence continues to grow and more Americans have been exposed to its gruesome tactics.

    Now, two beheaded U.S. journalists later, it doesn’t appear that the White House is any closer to figuring out a strategy for dealing with an enemy that has declared war on the American people....

    At the moment, the White House wants to delegate the chore of ISIS' destruction to local forces while offering technological support. And that's it.

    This strategy could work, possibly leading to the eventual elimination of ISIS forces. However, based on generations of military strategy that favors manual engagement, it's extremely risky. (End excerpts)
     
  6. Albert Di Salvo

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    Racial divisions make unity impossible in the United States. Countries which lack a unifying principle don't survive the test of time. America will be consumed by a neverending cycle of racial rage and fear.

     
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    Sun Tzu's understanding is as applicable to political conflicts as it is to military conflicts. The Master would have seen that the forces of one's enemies can be set against each other for the purpose of mutual exhaustion while we watch. I think it would be best not to intervene directly with American forces, but to make sure that neither IS nor Iran can defeat the other. Let them fight each other. If necessary help whichever side appears to be losing to stave off defeat so the fight goes on without end.
     
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    PLEASE!!!

    The United States.....the SINGLE LARGEST AND MOST POPULATED RACIALLY, SOCIALLY,SEXUALLY, RELIGIOUSLY, IDEOLOGICALLY AND CULTURALLY DIVERSE NATION ON PLANET EARTH.....does very well than you when it comes to such things as dealing with people from different cultures and religions and people who's skin color is different as such things really do not matter HERE like they do in other Nations.

    I have LITERALLY been to just about EVERY SINGLE NATION ON PLANET EARTH.

    Some don't even exist anymore and a few are new....but my list is long and extensive.

    I have such experience because of my JOB....which I was RETIRED....and was asked back one more time because of how complicated the JOB was.

    There are MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of people of every Color and every Religion and every Culture living together VERY PEACEFULLY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES!!!

    For those people make the mistake of saying THE UNITED STATES IS A Christian Nation......well...no....no it is NOT!

    It is not a Christian Nation nor is it a Jewish Nation nor is it a Islamic Nation nor is it a Hindu Nation nor is it an Atheist or Agnostic Nation nor is it a NATION OF ANY ONE SPECIFIC RELIGION.....because the American Forefathers were some really SMART DUDES!!!

    They KNEW some day that there were going to be a bunch of RELIGIOUS A$$#@!ES attempting to get Public Schools to allow RELIGIOUS PRAYER in them....so they allowed any Religion to develop it's OWN SCHOOL SYSTEM....as long as certain UNIFIED CIRICULUM WAS TAUGHT!!

    That means....if you went to a Christian School......or Islamic School...or etc....a certain number of classes...perhaps one or two a day would be dedicated to teaching your specific Religious Ideology....but the OTHER 6 CLASSES.....WOULD BE DEDICATED TO SCIENCE, MATHEMATICS, LANGUAGES, PHYSICS, CHEMISTRY, COMPUTER SCIENCES, LIT...OF WHATEVER LIT YOU CHOSE....etc!!!

    The CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS WITHIN ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE SINGLE MOST USEFUL AND IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS EVER WRITTEN BY MANKIND...EVER!!!

    The United States will be around for a very long time....or at least until a WORLD GOVERNMENT can be developed at which time we will be perhaps EVOLVED ENOUGH SO I DON'T HAVE TO STILL BE DIGGING PIECES OF SHRAPNEL OUT OF MY LEGS IN THE HOT AND SANDY AND AT THE SAME TIME DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO KILL FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

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    In the absence of a unifying principle creating social cohesion among the different tribes in America, the country can't be held together for the long term.
     
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    LOL!!!

    OUR DIVERSITY IS OUR GREATEST STRENGTH!!!

    Those nations who do everything they can to maintain some idiotic ideology of PURE BLOODLINES....have ALWAYS FAILED....or have become inconsequential.

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  11. Albert Di Salvo

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    What unifies all Americans as one people?

    What about the Han Chinese?
     
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    The Freedoms that are stated within the U.S. Consitution and the Bill of Rights.

    The only thing that makes a person an AMERICAN besides either being born here or becoming Naturalized....is THE SHARED BELIEF OF THE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS IN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!

    As I have stated before...there are MULTILE MILLIONS of both Shia and Sunni American's living side by side VERY PEACEFULLY.....where in the Middle East they attempt to KILL EACH OTHER WHOLESALE!!!

    WHY?

    SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!

    As far as the Han Chinese....

    The Han dynasty ruled in an era of Chinese cultural consolidation, political experimentation, relative economic prosperity and maturity, and great technological advances. There was unprecedented territorial expansion and exploration initiated by struggles with non-Chinese peoples, especially the nomadic Xiongnu of the Eurasian Steppe. The Han emperors were initially forced to acknowledge the rival Xiongnu Chanyus as their equals, yet in reality the Han was an inferior partner in a tributary and royal marriage alliance known as heqin. This agreement was broken when Emperor Wu of Han (r. 141–87 BCE) launched a series of military campaigns which eventually caused the fissure of the Xiongnu Federation and redefined the borders of China. The Han realm was expanded into the Hexi Corridor of modern Gansu province, the Tarim Basin of modern Xinjiang, modern Yunnan and Hainan, modern northern Vietnam, modern North Korea, and southern Outer Mongolia. The Han court established trade and tributary relations with rulers as far west as the Arsacids, to whose court at Ctesiphon in Mesopotamia the Han monarchs sent envoys. Buddhism first entered China during the Han, spread by missionaries from Parthia and the Kushan Empire of northern India and Central Asia.

    From its beginning, the Han imperial court was threatened by plots of treason and revolt from its subordinate kingdoms, the latter eventually ruled only by royal Liu family members. Initially, the eastern half of the empire was indirectly administered through large semi-autonomous kingdoms which pledged loyalty and a portion of their tax revenues to the Han emperors, who ruled directly over the western half of the empire from Chang'an. Gradual measures were introduced by the imperial court to reduce the size and power of these kingdoms, until a reform of the middle 2nd century BCE abolished their semi-autonomous rule and staffed the kings' courts with central government officials. Yet much more volatile and consequential for the dynasty was the growing power of both consort clans (of the empress) and the eunuchs of the palace. In 92 CE, the eunuchs entrenched themselves for the first time in the issue of the emperors' succession, causing a series of political crises which culminated in 189 CE with their downfall and slaughter in the palaces of Luoyang. This event triggered an age of civil war as the country became divided by regional warlords vying for power. Finally, in 220 CE, the son of an imperial chancellor and king accepted the abdication of the last Han emperor, who was deemed to have lost the Mandate of Heaven according to Dong Zhongshu's (179–104 BCE) cosmological system that intertwined the fate of the imperial government with Heaven and the natural world. Following the Han, China was split into three states: Cao Wei, Shu Han, and Eastern Wu; these were reconsolidated into one empire by the Jin dynasty (265–420 CE).

    LINK.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Han_Dynasty

    AboveAlpha
    Not only FREEDOM OF RELIGION but as well FREEDOM FROM RELIGION!!!
     
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    Wikipedia? Shakes head.

    As used in the US Constitution what does the term "equality" mean?
     
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    In reality with the exception of the EQUALITY OF LAWS BEING APPLIED.....EQUALITY DOES NOT EXIST!!

    I am a large way above average physically fit man about 6 foot 2 inches and now weighing in at about 235 lbs....I lost a bit of weight.

    I am all muscle and very little body fat....and I eat like a horse!! LOL!!!

    Now there are my two Bi-Sexual young female neighbors who have BEGGED ME NOT TO TELL THEIR MILITARY FATHERS THEY INTEND TO GET MARRIED as they bought their current home TOGETHER and told their Dad's they bought that large nice home as INVESTMENT PROPERTY!!!

    Now....I first met them when I heard two women screaming as they are Bi-Sexual and not fully Gay and they had this agreement with this IDIOT....a young guy.....that ONE WEEKEND A MONTH.....AND ONE WEEKEND A MONTH ONLY.....they would have this guy over for sex and fun as they love each other dearly but they both have a NEED for a MAN occationally in their life.

    They love each other so much they made this arrangement to satisfy both their needs but as USUAL....Younf Men ARE FREAKING IDIOTS especially when they have this SWEET DEAL but they screw it up by coming over when they have been told NOT TO UNLESS INVITED....and this guy was DRUNK AND PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE!!!

    I heard screaming....and you can't see our houses even though they are on the same side of the road as our properties are large and there is woods inbetween them.

    I ran though this path in the woods and came out on the garage side of right side of their home if you saw it from the street and this guy was holding onto one of the girls arms with his hand and sort of pushing the other away roughly as they both fought him off...or tried to.

    NOW.....was their ACTUAL EQUALITY PHYSICALLY THERE? NO.

    Even though the LAWS forbid and have penalties for such things did it help them at the moment? No.

    I ran over asked him to let go of my yet to be known neighbor and he decided to let her go and take a swing at me.

    I am expertly trained in a anumber of martial arts including weapons and I CAREFULLY....AND GENTLY.....put him in a CHOKE/SLEEPER HOLD.....and knocked him out doing the least amount of physical damage as I could.

    Was there any EQUALITY between him and I in REALITY? No.

    I told the girls to call the cops and one had already called her father and since their fathers are buddies they came over together and the girls explained what the situation was to me as I heard a few things that DIRTBAG was saying....and the BEGGED ME NOT TO TELL THEIR DAD'S!!!

    I promised.

    I know all the Cop's...and this guy had an outstanding warrent already so they arrested him.

    Their Father's came over and not knowing me or the situation came ARMED AND LOADED FOR BEAR!!!

    The Girls explained what happened....sort of....and we have all been very good friends since.

    Now as a man....am I EQUAL to a WOMAN in that I cannot give birth? No.

    Are the girls as strong as I am or as trained? No.

    Are their Military Fathers ABSOLUTELY GOING TO FREAK OUT WHEN WEDDING CARDS GO OUT.....oh yeah!

    But my point is this....ACTUAL EQUALITY DOES NOT EXIST!

    LEGAL EQUALITY DOES!

    AboveAlpha

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    Oh....since probably 99.999% of the members here have no idea who the Han Chinese were.....it seemed only right to provide a source.

    And besides....your question to be is too vague.

    Be specific.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    As used in the Constitution does the term "equality" mean equality before the law, equality of opportunity, or equality of outcome?
     
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    Equality in the Constitution is used as far as RIGHTS BACKED BY LAW.

    Equal Oppertunity is not realistic because different peole have better abilities than others in similar skills.

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    Is there a constitutional right to equality of outcome?
     
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    Depends.

    Every person has a right to a trial by their peers or Judge.

    But the Constitution does not guarantee equality of outcome as no TANGIBLE THING is equal.

    THERE IS EQUALITY IN AN IDEOLOGY....but not in physicality.

    As I have posted...I am a large strong man of extreme training yet I am not equal to the smallest female who could give birth to a child.

    At the same time this female will not have the strength to save that child under specific circumstances....but she will have THE MENTAL STRENGTH to do so under certain circumstances.

    There is no person as ruthless, cunning, daring, vicious, violent and protective to a murderous fault as a MOTHER GUARDING HER CHILDREN!!!

    I have run into men and women who have told me..."No metter what I would never take another human beings life!"

    They are LYING TO THEMSELVES!!

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    I have read an article of Hong Kong, talking about the suffering of Tibet. and the author claims that, CCP treats Tibet and HK, is in the same way.

    and here are some informations according to him.

    In 1989 the Chinese government imposed martial law in Lhasa, as well as the bloody crackdown.
    After the Tiananmen Incident, martial law was revoked, however, CCP started its total-control policy towards Tibet.

    Starting from 1995, the Chinese government executed the repression of Tibetan Buddhism,

    and enacted Chinese-style mandatory patriotic education

    (Hong Kong now has to carry out patriotic education in all schools,
    Students in kindergarten are taught to sing patriotic brainwashing nursery rhyme "China is my mother.")

    all Tibetan temples have to place the pictures of CCP leaders.

    Mandarin, is the only language allowed to use at Tibet schools
    , instead of Tibetan language

    A large number of Chinese companies mining in Tibet, the government takes the lands from Tibetan nomads by force.

    Countless Tibetan nomads lost their land,
    forced to flow only in the edge of town.

    keep on sending large amount of Chinese immigrants to Tibet, with special benefits.


    In 2008, large-scale demonstrations in Lhasa, to protest against China's ethnic and cultural genocide.
    (similar with Hong Kong umbrella revolution)

    There are over a thousand monks and Tibetans to participate. finally ended by a Brutal repression by the Chinese government.

    Numerous people were arrested, imprisoned, and disappeared.

    Since then, the Tibetan self-immolation is the only way to make a complaint.
    So far, more than 140 Tibetans died from self-immolation.

    However, the central government has made more stringent controls.

    Starting in May last year, Tibetans who enter Lhasa must apply for a permit, and have to pass a series of hurdles,
    meanwhile, the Chinese people with an identity card, can travels anywhere in Tibet.

    (this is similar to the tourists policies of "free walkers" and "one visa, unlimited travels" which China enacts to HK)

    Thousands of tourists flock to Lhasa, Lhasa becomes a tourist attraction

    The Potala Palace has become a paraphernalia.
    Tibetan holy city was destroyed.

    The old tricks of CCP, destroy your culture, your language, your spiritual support, then you will become a purely object that it can rule easily.

    Yesterday Tibet, today Hong Kong.

    Chinese treats Tibetans and Hong Konger no more than second-class subjects of a colony.
     
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    Nope China treat all citizens same whether is Tibetan or other that is if anyone speak out against government on issues such as democracies etc they get arrested. Hk actually treated much better compare to regular mainlander. Hk are allowed to protest on issues such as democracy's etc
     
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    China and Israel have a lot in common.
     
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    This is both a fact and very unfortunate.

    It is an example of the current Chinese Communist Leadership to maintain TOTAL CONTROL of not only their own population but others as well.

    It is ultimately self defeating as only FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND EXPRESSION are capable of generating new Technologies and Ideas that are beneficial to China.

    EVERY SINGLE CHINESE ADVANCEMENT TO THIS POINT HAS BEEN AN IDEA CREATED OUTSIDE OF CHINA.

    Read this.

    Singapore’s founding father Lee Kuan Yew, long regarded as a strategic thinker, had some prescient words for Hong Kong.

    A few years after Hong Kong’s 1997 handover from British rule to Beijing’s control, the first prime minister of Singapore, who died on Sunday, warned of inevitable strife between the two places.

    If Hong Kongers wanted more democratic self-rule, Mr. Lee said, they needed to persuade Beijing that they would work within the new constitution China had drafted for the territory. “Otherwise, the chief executive and the people of Hong Kong will find themselves locked in a frustrating process of attrition with the center,” said Mr. Lee on a visit in 2000 to receive an honorary degree from the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

    Mr. Lee’s analysis describes Hong Kong’s current political condition, with the city split on an electoral reform proposal by Beijing. While the proposal allows for the city’s chief executive to be elected by universal suffrage in 2017, it also requires pre-screening of candidates by a committee heavily loyal to Beijing. The plan sparked last year’s Occupy protests. The city’s legislature will vote on the proposal later this year, but the pro-democracy camp has vowed to vote against it and has the numbers to block its passage. Beijing has said that there will be no further talk of electoral reform if the package is voted down.

    In a 1999 interview with the Far Eastern Economic Review, a now defunct magazine then published by Dow Jones Inc., the owner of The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Lee said he wouldn’t go into politics in Hong Kong if he was a Hong Kong person. He said that the chief executive, Tung Chee-hwa, was stuck in a “no-win job”–caught between the aspirations of Hong Kong people and Beijing’s expectations.

    Mr. Lee drew on his own experience, having taken over as prime minister in Singapore after the British conferred self-rule on what had been a colony for more than a century. But he may have been too optimistic about Hong Kong’s relationship with Beijing. He predicted that following a difficult first decade of Chinese rule, Beijing and Hong Kong would learn to better accommodate each other.

    “In 50 years, like it or not,” Hong Kong’s aspirations and China’s expectations are “going to meet in one country, one system. That’s the reality,” he said in the interview. Beijing would grow to understand that a history of British rule created a “different subgroup” of Chinese people, while the pro-democracy opposition in Hong Kong would accept that their aspirations would “have to be subject to the overriding national interests of China,” he said.

    Instead, Hong Kong society is polarized, with younger people particularly skeptical about Beijing’s rule. There are rumblings of self-determination on university campuses and increasingly confrontational relations between Hong Kong people and mainland Chinese.

    Confronted by protesters at Chinese University during his visit in 2000, Mr. Lee suggested that they “take a bus to Beijing and sit outside Zhongnanhai”—the Communist leadership compound. “Then I will say that’s real courage,” he said.

    When protest movement leaders tried to do that in 2014, authorities voided their travel permits to mainland China just before departure from Hong Kong airport.

    LINK....http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2015/03/23/singapores-late-leader-foresaw-hong-kong-strife/

    AboveAlpha..p.s...Mr. Lee was a Great Man.
     
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    He was a Great Man indeed.

    His predictions towards HK, mostly were proved to be correct.

    all of the medias of HK, compare Singapore and HK, instead of democracy, he gave Singapore a Honest and effective government, by his strong will and brilliant political skills, he knew "chinese" is just a kind of creature: give them basic needs, foods, shelters, safety, then they will obey.

    for avoid the influence of communist (Malaysia and China) he used English as a national language. yet he used "simply chinese characters" to cut off the link between Singapore chinese community and the old Sino culture, for Singapore is a multi-race society, he had to make a balance among different races.

    all HK medias sing for him, focus on the obedience of his people. yet they don't wanna mention, that he built a nation, he helped Singapore to get independence from Malaysia. that's what HK gonna do, we have to, or we will die.

    his brief opinion towards HK is that, don't confront China, you can't win, yes HK should have democracy, but sometimes you just can't get it, that's reality. he already reminded HK, that china wouldn't let us to have any differences with other normal china cities. old generations were just stupid to realize the truth, too lazy to fight. and now this fate of fighting is upon us and our young generations. it's sad. old Chinese always selfish and so the young Chinese have to bare sad outcome.

    after all, his dictatorship is all for the sake of people, so people willing to be ruled by him. and CCP and the lackey HK govt want to run the dictatorship for their own benefits, so they will fail.
     
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    for HK, the first thing to learn from Singapore is that, independence, and build a nation.
     
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    I am so sorry that you now live in a Hong Kong that is not what it used to be Politically and Freedom wise.

    I have been to Hong Kong and I have been to China several times as the Chinese Communist Party Leadership is all about APEARENCE and how what they do and ow they attempt to convince the ever more informed Chinese People that.....WITHOUT US...THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY......YOU AS THE INDIVIDUAL WOULD BE NOTHING!!!

    They took all the money they made AND DUMPED IT INTO URBAN CONSTRUCTION ONLY instead of using it to help develop the very much needed CHINESE RURAL AREA INFRASTRUCTURE!!

    The Chinese Communist Party does not want TOURISTS...or any Non-Chinese Person....to go outside these Urban Areas where in some cases massive 100 story plus skyscrapers exist......JUST TO EXIST!!!

    JUST TO LOOK PRETTY FOR FOREIGN TOURISTS as most of them are half empty.....but they keep building them!!

    Why?

    They could use that money to help the UNBELIEVABLY IMPOVERISHED SUFFERING RURAL AREA LIVING CHINESE!!!


    But instead they just want to JUSTIFY THEIR EXISTENCE....as China is no longer Communist.....IT IS A DICTATORSHIP!!

    AboveAlpha
     

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