China's oppression of Tibet

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe Israel is already exporting natural gas to Jordon and has plans to export it possibly to Europe as well. I do not see that they need US or Canadian imports.
     
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    Yes but their reserves are small.

    Why the export it I have no idea.

    Unless they have discovered some larger reserves I am unaware of?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I am assuming the money is why. Either way, Israel has been known to find a reason to expand their borders when it suited them in the name of defending themselves before. Undoubtedly, they will do it again.
     
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    I am in the Middle East right now....and this time not to solve issues specific to Peace Accord Protocal.

    I am not violating OPSEC as a specific group killled a very special ASSET and they tried to kill me as well.

    I was retired and came out of retirement to do this one JOB as I was the only one that had experience with this group still around.

    This JOB went from a MEET AND GREET....to the death of our Asset just as he got out of his vehicle in a Motorcade WHICH I WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE.....so as my Team and I just flew in and found out that some LADDER CLIMBING SENATORS SON HAD PLANNED AND SET UP THE MEET AND GREET......I told them my Team and I were OUT...and we were heading back home as I was promised I would have 100% TOTAL AUTHORITY OVERALL UPON ALL ASPECTS!!!

    Then I was told our Asset was already IN ROUTE....and I swore and realized we had to get there.

    You know....I FREAKING KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE IT HAPPENED!!

    My Team and I got to the Meeting point a short time before the Asset did...not enough time to do a proper check of the area.....so I had my entire team stand far back of the semicircular road where the Assets Motorcade and Guards came in....and I stood about 25 Meters closer.

    We were all wearing High Tech...not standard issue as it is too expensive...BODY ARMOR.....with GROIN FLAPS...thank GOD!!

    Our Assets Guards got out first and then our Asset got out of the vehicle and then a HUGE EXPLOSION!!

    I was thrown about 10 feet backwards....our Asset and most of his guards died instantly...some a few days later.

    My Team was fine....in my case a thin piece of shrapnel entered the extreme corner of one of my eyes and severed one of the muscles that is responsible for eye movement.

    Another piece of shrapnel entered the inside thigh of one of my legs and just nicked my Femoral Artery.

    Anywhere I did not have Body Armor on.....I had small pieces of shrapnel about the size of a pea or even smaller....stuck in my arms and legs and fortumtely just a few together in a crecent moon shape on my neck and face.

    I was sent to this S#!# HOLE of a Hospital because they were worried there would be another attack but fortunatey they sent in a few very good American Surgeons.....one who I knew and is one of the very best Eye Surgeons on the Planet.

    They put me under and they quickly and very effectively reattached my severed eye movement muscle and checked out my Femoral Artery which was found to be not that bad at all.

    I refused Painkillers as I had to think quickly and as I hold a Medical Degree I asked my 2nd to bring in my Disposable Plastic with Metal Blade Scalpel Kit...a few Hemostats...and my trust EXACTO KNIFE.....as they wanted to schedule 2 surgeries over a few days and I thought...F@#K THAT!!!

    So I shot myself up with LIDOCAINE....and began to work.

    They caught me.

    They thought I was crazy but as I yelled at them and explained I was already shot up with Lidocaine just to give me a hand!!!

    The whole deal only took a few hours!!!

    Now this was a few weeks back and after being called Nick Fury for awhile because of the eye patch....I was cleared for non-field JOBS and now I am fully cleared.

    We found out that a part of this group is connected to a SPLINTER GROUP OF ISLAMIC JIHAD a group so vicious and STUPID IN THEIR PLANNING that not even Islamic Jihad want's any part of them!!

    A lot about this had to do with ENERGY....and who ownd the RIGHTS TO EXTRACTING IT....if you get my meaning!!!

    The biggest mistake they made was not killing me because I know who they are....and I know where to find them....and we now only have 2 left to go after.

    I made sure we made a STATEMENT....CLEAR AND LOUD!!!

    You do this......WE WILL COME AFTER YOU.....AND KILL YOU!!!

    None of the other groups in the area are interfering including Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad as they wanted these SOB's dead as well!!

    Now Israel expanded it's boarders after the wars which they were attacked....but if Israel want's a lasting peace....they need to stop building settlements in disputed areas and the Palestinian's have TO GET OFF THEIR A$$E$.....as all they have to do is call up the U.S. and say....WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE ROADMAP FOR PEACE AND WE ACCEPT ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST!!


    AND OVERNIGHT.....the U.S. would FORCE ISRAEL INTO THE TWO STATE SYSTEM!!!

    Netty could arge against it all he wanted to but to not agree to the Roadmap after the Palestinian's did...and that includes HAMAS IN GAZA AS WELL.....if the Palestianian's agreed to the Roadmap and publically stated it observes and agrees with Israel's right to exist.....netty would have to allow a two state system!!!

    THE UNITED STATES WOULD FORCE NETTY TO DO SO!!

    If he did not agree....his own Government would collapse and a new Israeli Leader would take his place!!

    Because it is one thing to disagree with the U.S. Policies.....IT IS ANOTHER THING ALL TOGETHER TO LOSE OVER $20 BILLION IN YEARLY U.S. AID.....AND LOSE THE UNITED STATES AS AN ALLY!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Make sure you won't fall into the hands of IS militants as they should be fuming at your claim that "RELIGION IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!"

    At least you sense that you are defeated by my prediction that "the Palestinian/Israeli issue (more accurately, the conflict between Jews and Muslims) could never be resolved permanently".

    At least you seem to be by the chunks of rubbish you posted in this forum. :smile:
     
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    AboveAlpha…… I am often wrong….. so to whatever degree I am incorrect in what I am about to write….. I am sorry….. but this is the best that I can do with this difficult subject at this time.

    I truly believe that if P. M. Stephen Harper is re-elected this year…….. America should probably challenge him to take point on any deal between Israel and Jordan….. which I do feel for many reasons should precede a deal between Israel, Jordan and the Palestinians.

    Since the year 2000 my wife has introduced me to the gifted Pentecostal - Charismatic movement and I have learned from her to take the dreams and visions that they are given very seriously.

    From what some of them have been shown over the past years I believe that what two time near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown about a peace deal between Jordan and Israel should become a focal point of US and NATO Middle EAstern policy. This is logical for so many reasons it is amazing.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
    Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?
    I know that many of you pray or meditate so please

    pray that P. M. Stephen Harper initiate a peace deal between Jordan and Israel?

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I am a member of a different Canadian political party but……… I have to admit that P. M. Stephen Harper is for good reason regarded as a rather "Davidic" figure by a high percentage of Israelis.

    What he did for Israel back in 2011 at the G-8 was one of the most courageous and wise acts by a political leader that I have seen since I began to watch world events back in the '70's!

    …….
    My guess on the new colour for Jordan would be GREEN…. as Isaiah 35 is fulfilled and the deserts of Jordan would be turned green through a great increase in desalination of ocean water……. Not to mention the blessing of God!

    http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

    ….. Remember that youtube video about a major UFO event over The Temple Mount back on January 28, 2011? One of the women in the background stated that she saw lots of UFO activity back home along the Mississippi. What those UFO's have been doing……. is delaying and delaying and delaying……… a series of natural disasters that would pretty much divide the USA into two nations. There is evidence for another time line in which those disasters may have began as early as 1988…… in that other line of time.

    America…… should give serious consideration and nearly FEAR…… to what was shown to Pastor Shane WArren about America being divided into two nations……… if America forces Israel into a poorly timed two state solution.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87l4512Q4rY
    Shane Warren 1 on It's Supernatural with Sid Roth - Future of America

    (The most relevant statements occur at the 17 minute mark in this video)!

    In a way…… America = Egypt……. and American Jews are metaphorical slaves to "The American dream" and/or materialism in some form……… and a second and greater Exodus is being planned….. by beings with technology beyond our capability to even begin to comprehend.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...g-d-planning-another-exodus-but-time-usa.html
    Could G-d be planning another Exodus? But this time from the USA????
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I attempted to explain the evidence that points in the direction of non-linear time……… and/or multiple Ezekiel 37 events to the theologically inclined……… over here in this thread….. I had no choice but to put this in the humour section……. although I was actually being quite serious!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html
    In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

    I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

    Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

    I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film.

    ……….
    The ash, soot and dust that goes into the atmosphere from all those smoke stacks...… over the short term...… tends to mask/decrease a general global warming trend!!!!!!!!!

    ……

    ……Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

    Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... … and is not confined to being a straight line...…

    In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue...… because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

    http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

     
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    AboveAlpha….. if Liberal Party Leader Mr. Justin Trudeau becomes the new Prime Minister of Canada in the upcoming election …. and if P. M. Stephen Harper becomes leader of the opposition…… then……. it would be best to get both of these men involved in a plan to assist Jordan and Israel to come to a whole new level of cooperation.

    The best possible way that I can think of is for Canada's Liberal Party to initiate the offer to Jordan……and P. M. Stephen Harper initiates the deal with Israel…….. NDP Leader Tom Mulcair would be perfect to send to the Palestinians……. and in theory…….. this could cost Canadian and American taxpayers…..NOTHING…….. because theoretically this could be done by initiating a new way of looking at money itself………..

    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...008-campaign-my-apology-ms-elizabeth-may.html
    Ignorance shown in my 2008 campaign, my apology to Ms. Elizabeth May!
    Back in 2008 when I campaigned for the office of municipal councilor my ignorance regarding the importance of reducing atmospheric carbon is out there for all to see!

    I am wondering if the information regarding the increasing acidity of the oceans can alter how we view the importance of altering our economy?

    …….
    Ms. May…… a Green Party Volunteerism Hour somewhat like the Ithaca Hour or Green Party Volunteerism Dollars somewhat like Calgary Dollars could be initiated years before Canadians are ready to support carbon pricing.

    Here is how I worded this idea over on the official Liberal Party Discussion forum:

    AboveAlpha….. a gifted American was shown how to bring peace between Palestinians and Israelis in an OOBE back in 1992 or 1993. His theory is brilliant…….. and it is a truly unique variation on a two state solution….. that in my opinion has major advantages even over the Bermigo Plan authored by Mr. Gordon Miller.

    http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html
    God's Peace Plan

    for the Holy Land

    A Peace Plan for Israel/Palestine

    conforming to guidelines from the Bible and Qur’an






    presented by


    Robert Leon Mendelson

    ….
    Incidentally….. this whole topic connects directly to the situation in China and Tibet………….. because hiring somewhere between one hundred million Chinese actors……to two hundred million actors…….. to play the role of soldiers……. in a massive documentary plus reality plus semi-reality science fiction film series to duplicate "Armageddon" as it is presented in Jewish, Christian and Islamic scriptures………….. will transform the entire world economy in a very positive way….. but………….. this will of course be risky?!?!

    …. But less risky than coming up with a plan that ignores the scriptures!

    Revelation 9:16
    "And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."
    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=9&v=16&t=KJV#s=1176016
     
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    Tibetans are like Red Indians.
     
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    Japan is marooned like man Friday with Uncle Sam on a deserted island.

    Alternately, Japan is like Renfield under the influence of Count Dracula, having no choice but serving its vampire master in the castle.
     
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    thanks for telling me that, I didn't know that Marine allows soldiers to question the order.
    and it won't happen in China, nor Hong Kong police forces, those cops are trained to treat the protesters as enemies

    and yes, China is going to be more and more chaotic.
    two big protests happened in Canton within last month (one was just happened few days ago)

    in fact, it's not protest, it's riot.

    people block the streets, burn cars, surrounded cops stations and break everything.
    one was against that government took the lands from framers without reasonable compensation (cops arrested 3 men, all dead now, and the reason is unknown) , and then the other one was against to build a chemical factory near the residents.
     
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    There will be two possibilities for you after your passing.

    Firstly, if there is either a God or more than one god:

    Since you have no religion, your soul will be akin to a stateless refugee after your departure. Having no religion is just like having no "passport" to anywhere after death. You will end up like a wandering ghost on earth, haunting your current habitat.

    Worse, you will be guilty of sacrilege and mocking of God/gods that He/they will be going after you to punish your soul.

    Secondly, what's claim by you turns out to be true: "we have copies of copies of copies many times over written by dead men from memory.....WE REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SAID!!!"

    Compared to eternity, your lifespan is just like a tiny grain of sand on a beach. Then it's best for you to enjoy every second you have in this world, for you will never again have the chance to enjoy life after your passing! :angel:
     
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    Didn't you suggest that Japan would one day attack the United States?

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    Sometimes you seem like you must be a Christian.
     
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    Here is another thing you might be interested in.

    If you get the chance.....READ THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS!!!

    Within the Constitution there is something written THAT NO NATIONS CONSTITUTION HAS EVER HAD WITHIN IT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES THE U.S. CONSTITUTION QUITE POSSIBLY THE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENT EVERY WRITTEN IN THE HISTORY OF MAN!!!

    Here is a shortened Summary of Constitutional Rights, Powers and Duties and I will give you the link to allow you to read the entire summary but I am just going to bring up a few things here that pertain to our conversation.

    LINK.....http://www.constitution.org/powright.htm

    This LINK is to the entire Summary.

    But here are a few things that I want you to see and understand.

    Restrictions of the powers of the national Government:

    (1) No exercise of powers not delegated to it by the Constitution.

    (2) No payment from the Treasury except under appropriations made by law.

    (3) Excises and duties must be uniform throughout the United States.

    (4) Shall pass no tax or duty on articles exported from any state.

    (5) No appointment of a senator or representative to any civil office which was created while he was a member of Congress or for which the amount of compensation was increased during that period.

    (6) No preferences to the ports of one state over another in regulation or tax collection.

    (7) No titles of nobility shall be granted by the U.S. government, or permitted to be granted to government officials by foreign states.

    (8) May not protect a State against domestic violence without the request of its legislature, unless it cannot be convened, in which case, without the consent of its executive.

    (9) U.S. courts do not have jurisdiction over suits against a state by citizens of another state or foreign country.

    IT IS #1 ON THIS LIST THAT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER AND I WILL ALSO SHOW YOU A DUTY NOT A RIGHT BUT A DUTY OF EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN.

    #1. States......(1) No exercise of powers not delegated to it by the Constitution.

    Now here is a list of DUTIES OF ALL U.S. CITIZENS.

    Constitutional duties of citizens under U.S. or State jurisdiction.

    (1) To preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.

    (2) To help enforce laws and practices that are constitutional and applied within their proper jurisdiction and according to their intent, and to resist those which are not.

    (3) To serve on juries, and to render verdicts according to the constitutionality, jurisdiction, and applicability of statute and common law, and the facts of the case.

    #1 in this List of Duties of all American Citizen's states....(1) To preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.


    Now this is just a summary of the U.S. Constitution but if you read it you will read and understand this......

    In the U.S. Constitution it states that if at any time IF A GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT FOLLOW THE THE RULES, RIGHTS AND DUTIES GIVEN, ASSIGNED AND STIPULATED IN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS......AS THE U.S. STATES AND THE U.S. FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MUST.....MUST.....ABSOLUTELY MUST FOLLOW THE U.S. CONSTITUTION IN EVERYTHING THEY DO OR DO NOT DO......AND THE STATES OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOES NOT RECTIFY ANY SUCH MISTAKE WHETHER IT IS PURPOSEFUL OR A MISTAKE..........and here is the part that only the U.S. Constitution and no other Nation on Earth's Constitution states.....

    ......if this happens then IT IS THE DUTY OF THE AMERICAN CITIZEN'S TO REMOVE THIS ILLEGAL STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS NOT ABIDING BY THE U.S. CONSTITUTIONAL RULES, FREEDOMS AND DUTIES!!

    Thus the U.S. Constitution does not state it is a right.....BUT IT IS THE DUTY OF EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN INCLUDING MILITARY, U.S. INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES AND NORMAL EVERYDAY PEOPLE.....IT IS THEIR....DUTY.......TO REMOVE SUCH AN ILLEGAL GOVERNMENT BY ALL AND ANY AND EVERY FORCE NECESSARY!!!

    Also...as it pertains to what happened at the Square when the PLA killed thousands of Chinese People.....this is what is WRITTEN IN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.

    Personal Security (Life):

    (1) Not to be killed.

    (2) Not to be injured or abused.

    Personal Liberty:

    (3) To move freely.

    (4) To assemble peaceably.

    (5) To keep and bear arms.

    (6) To assemble in an independent well-disciplined militia.

    (7) To communicate with the world.

    (8) To express or publish one's opinions or those of others.

    (9) To practice one's religion.

    (10) To be secure in one's person, house, papers, vehicle and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures.

    (11) To enjoy privacy in all matters in which the rights of others are not violated.

    Again....this is a summary of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights......and I will post the LINK again.

    LINK....http://www.constitution.org/powright.htm

    There are many more rights, duties and freedoms discussed within it and although reading the Summary for you is a good step....I would take the time to read the whole thing and when you do......you will realise why I have stated........THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS IS THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT DOCUMENT EVER WRITTEN AND CREATED BY MANKIND IS THE HISTORY OF THE PLANET!!

    Once you read the summary.....you will see why American's see China and Russia as DICTATORSHIPS.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Yeah....uhhh....I am not worried about it.

    If there is a GOD it will most likely be NOTHING like you think it is.

    If there is NO GOD.....well I can certainly have no issue with that as it will be like sleeping without dreaming as I will cease to exist.

    If there is a GOD like is ADVERTIZED by the Bible.....this GOD and I are going to have some WORDS SAID BETWEEN THE TWO OF US!!!

    And don't give me that..."WHO ARE YOU TO QUESTION GOD!!??""

    Who am I?

    I am ONE OF THE ENTITIES LIVING IN THIS MULTIVERSE SO AS EXISTENSE IS NOT A QUANTIFIABLE THING....thus a Human Beings existence cannot be mathematically, eithically or philosophically proven or said to be of any more value or importance to a CLOVER, BEAVER, DOG OR CAT, A HIGHLY ADVANCED ALIEN BEING OR A GOD!!!

    I would have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER.....B!#@HING OUT THIS GOD FOR DOING SUCH A P!$$ POOR JOB!!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Dennis....read this....

    Israel–Jordan peace treaty
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    US President Bill Clinton watches Jordan's King Hussein and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin sign the Washington Declaration on the White house lawn, which ended the state of official enmity between the two countries
    A handshake between Hussein I of Jordan and Yitzhak Rabin, accompanied by Bill Clinton, during the Israel-Jordan peace negotiations, July 25th, 1994The Israel–Jordan peace treaty or in full "Treaty of Peace Between the State of Israel and the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan" (Hebrew: הסכם השלום בין ישראל לירדן‎; transliterated: Heskem Ha-Shalom beyn Yisra'el Le-Yarden) (Arabic: معاهدة السلام الأردنية الإسرائيلية‎; Arabic transliteration: Mu'ahadat as-Salaam al-'Urdunniyah al-Isra'yliyah, sometimes referred to as Wadi Araba Treaty) was signed in 1994. The signing ceremony took place at the southern border crossing of Arabah on 26 October 1994. Jordan was the second Arab country, after Egypt, to sign a peace accord with Israel.[1]

    The treaty settled relations between the two countries, adjusted land and water disputes, and provided for broad cooperation in tourism and trade. It included a pledge that neither Jordan nor Israel would allow its territory to become a staging ground for military strikes by a third country.

    LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Jordan_peace_treaty

    AboveAlpha
     
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    reedak.....you can believe whatever you want to believe....at least if you live in the U.S.


    But it is possible to have a lasting Palestinain/Israeli Peace Accord.....all that is needed is the U.S. Shuts of all MONETARY AID to both sides and the U.S. uses it's unparrelleled Economic Pressure to make certain no one else makes any AID DONATIONS either.

    We would probably have to use Special Forces against the Iranian Qud's Force who supply both Arms and Money to Assad who then disseminates this AID to Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad after Assad takes his CUT of course and after those groups take their CUT and by the time everyone takes their CUT then the Palestinian Authority Leadership TAKES IT'S CUT leaving very little left for the average Palestinian.

    We cut off all AID to both sides....we force the Arab League to do the same...force Europe to do the same and within a month BOTH SIDES WILL BE TALKING ABOUT A LASTING PEACE!!!

    Right now there is no money in PEACE for all these Groups.

    All the MONEY is in WAR!!

    AboveAlpha...p.s....your trash barrels are OVER FLOWING!!!
     
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    china is an authoritarian government, NK is dictatorship.

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    so what do you expect HK police do when there is protest, do nothing? they are their to protect order and make sure the protest doesn't affect local resident. check protest in occupy wall street.
     
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    Dictatorship.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    the greatness of the constitution is that it written down the concepts of a true citizen as an ultimate law that all people and government will obey. by the constitution, every person will be a respectable and decent citizen in front of government, not a subject or a slave. it offers everyone a duty to remove an illegal government which is not able to follow the constitution.

    meanwhile in the concept of chinese, law is just a tool used by government to rule people, it's totally different.

    if, HK really gets independence from CCP someday, this must be written down on our law, the duty to remove an illegal government.

    here is a reporter describe the mind set of current HK government.

    So, in a country RULED BY LAW, what's their focus?
    The people?
    A fairer and just society for all?
    A vibrant economy?
    Of course not, their focus is LAW!
    Got a problem, smash it with law?
    Laws don't cover the problem?
    Duh...... Make new laws, stupid!
    True to form HKGov and police are now manipulating the public to demand new laws so they can 'fix' society.
    Here's their shopping list.
    People keeping protesting - not to worry, we have laws that prevent just 3 people we don't like meeting each other. Solved!
    People no longer respect the police - not to worry, let's make laws to MAKE people respect the police. Solved!
    People don't like CCP - EASY, more laws, if you say things against CCP we'll slam you with LAW. Solved!
    The plan to make class enemies of Pro-Independence supporters has backfired, so rather than society hating them it has adopted the cause in greater numbers - Right, let's fix it like every other problem we have, MORE LAWS.
    LAW, LAW, LAW
    The first and last tool in fixing any problem..... LAW!
    Why fix anything when you can just overwhelm any trouble makers with law?

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    yada yada, authoritarian
     
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    doesn't matter whats written, its how government enforce it. india has great laws too, but look at their issues, woman right etc etc.

    doubt hk will get independent, more likely china CCP has to change due to chinese middle class demand. if UK allow HK become independent in 1900-60s, when china is at its weakest, HK should already become something similar to taiwan. but doesn't matter its taiwan or HK, both need china due to its economy $$$$.
     
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    Well said……. but if what near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown comes to pass….. the second agreement could be even more important than the first one.

    I have to wonder if one of the two agreements that Dannion was shown happening could be an agreement to rebuild the Jerusalem Third Temple complex perhaps by either 2030 or by 2070?

    If……. fear of Islamic extremism forces the nation of Jordan to draw closer to Israel……….. and if the idea that President Obama's older brother Malik has of rebuilding the Third TEmple catches on with other Muslims……… as well as with Christians…….. then that would be big news indeed.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...obama-one-worlds-most-courageous-muslims.html
    Is Malik Obama one of the worlds' most courageous Muslims?
    In my opinion.....YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    Obama’s Brother in Support of Third Temple Built in Jerusalem

    …..
    endtimeheadlines.org/temple-mount/obamas-brother-in-support-of-third-temple-built-in-jerusalem/

    Beginning to view the Islamic, Jewish and Christian scriptures as a set up for a massive series of documentary and reality films that boost the world economy………. could actually save the world economy!

    This will create somewhere around two hundred million better paying jobs in China and Russia?!

    Revelation 9:16
    "And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."

    And the application of this Islamic prophecy will totally alter the economic and political formula of the Middle EAst.

    http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110
    Actually………. some former residents of China who now have the freedom to research the Islamic, Jewish and Christian scriptures relevant to those "latter days" have good reason to look at the implications of this in terms of economics.

    The Jewish people are convinced that a "David" will be raised up for them…………… so if films are produced that this "David" will like………… then it is highly probable that this "DAvid" would support the creators of those films in many ways?!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...wish-people-decades-before-jesus-returns.html
    Is King David raised up for the Jewish people decades before Jesus returns?
    Is King David raised up for the Jewish people a significant amount of time previous to when the feet of Messiah stand on the Mt. of Olives in fulfillment of Zechariah chapter 14?

    It is pretty obvious that Jesus/Yahushua expects us to believe in the specific fulfillment of the words of the prophets.

    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)

    "But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them." (Jeremiah 30:9)

    It is relevant that Jesus/Yahushua clearly identified John the Baptist as a modern Elijah for his time period. Has King David already reincarnated in our time period....or will he certainly do so in the very near future????

    Isaiah speaks about a King Cyrus type of person who was instrumental in assisting the Jewish people to rebuild the second temple to which Jesus/Yahushua came. King Cyrus was a gentile or possibly a member of the lost tribes of Israel, and did not actually know the God of Abraham very well at all.

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that you guessed this correctly!

    Some seemingly well informed people are saying exactly this!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9mDdg289Z8
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