Chinese encroachment on it's neighbors

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  1. waltky

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    India has lost nearly 2,000 square kilometers to the PLA’s encroachments...
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    China is grabbing Himalayan land
    Sun, Jun 18, 2017 - Bite by kilometer-size bite, China is eating away at India’s Himalayan borderlands. For decades, Asia’s two giants have fought a bullet-less war for territory along their high-altitude border. However, recently, China has become more assertive, underscoring the need for a new Indian containment strategy. On average, China launches one stealth incursion into India every 24 hours.
     
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    Like an amoeba.
     
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    And the USA takes over countries with bullets and rockets, and wants to control the world, so what is worse?
     
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    India became the first nation to arrive at Mars on its first attempt and the first Asian country to reach the Red Planet when its Mars Orbiter Mission successfully entered Mars' orbit in 2014. However, there is one place where Indian rockets and spaceships can never fly across, that is, the wide scar of 1962 conflict in its national psyche.

    It seems that psychologically India can never recover from its "humiliating" defeat by China in the 1962 border war even though the South Asian country is now a full-fledged nuclear power and is in the process of becoming a superpower at some point during the 21st century.

    More than half a century after the border war, there are still many anti-China articles in the Indian media propagating Sinophobia and reminding the people of their "national humiliation". India had been ruled by the Muslim Mughal Empire for four centuries. It was under Western colonial rule for about 310 years. However, both periods of foreign domination had none of the psychological impact on the Indian psyche as compared with the deep scar of the 1962 Sino-Indian border war. Perhaps the Muslim and Western rules had occurred in a more distant time, and the Indians had entirely forgotten their "national humiliation".

    In my opinion, the Indians simply could not accept the defeat by a country they considered backward and a "semi-colony" of Western imperial powers not so long ago before World War II. It is just like a boxer who cannot accept defeat by a guy he considers weak and insignificant. Similarly, China seems never to be able to accept the defeat and invasion by modern Japan as it had been treating that country as barbarous and backward in ancient times. Hence China is more fearful of resurrection of Japanese militarism than the growing nuclear threat of North Korea which is now following the military path of pre-war Japan just across its border.

    As in all anti-China articles in the Indian media, the above-mentioned article is full of irrational arguments. As India is on track to become the world’s most populous nation by 2022, it is strange that it cannot deploy enough manpower to defend its borders. Furthermore, India can simply detain the so-called Chinese "civilian resources" — herders, farmers and grazers - if they really encroach on Indian territories. India has enough people to flood the other side of the borders, and one would wonder why India does not use its abundant human resource as the "tip of the spear" against China.

    Korea has been a vassal of China for many centuries. Now North Korea seems to have overcome its long periods of "national humiliation". Even now in its early stage of nuclear development, it has no qualms to show its open defiance against China, the US and Japan. It seems that India has no choice but to wait for the arrival of an Indian "Kim Jong-un" to get rid of its 1962 psychological scar.

    http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/specials/china.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers

    http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/23/world/asia/mars-india-orbiter/index.html

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonial_India

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquests_of_the_Indian_subcontinent

    http://time.com/3978175/india-population-worlds-most-populous-country/
     
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    China tryin' to take Vietnam's oil...
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    Vietnam Faces New Oil Dispute With China After Beijing Cuts Visit Short
    June 26, 2017 — China and Vietnam face a stiff new test in avoiding a showdown over undersea oil drilling after Beijing cut short a high-level meeting last week, but experts say the two sides will eventually patch things over.
     
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    China violating 'One country-two systems' agreement...
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    China flexes military muscle in Hong Kong during Xi's visit
    Jun 30,`17 -- President Xi Jinping inspected troops based in Hong Kong on Friday as he asserted China's authority over the former British colony, where anti-China sentiment has been on the rise since Beijing took control 20 years ago.
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    Fri, 30 Jun 2017 : Thousands of police are deployed as the territory marks the anniversary of its handover from the UK.
     
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    Vietnam borders the So. China Sea...
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    Vietnam drills for oil in South China Sea
    Wed, 05 Jul 2017: The move is reported to have angered China, which claims almost all of the resource-rich sea.
     
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    India and China are In the midst of a standoff in the high Himalayas. But so far both sides have resisted firing bullets. Here Indian soldiers are physically restraining Chinese soldiers in the Himalayan state of Sikkim.

     
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    I bet Taiwan is sweating.
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - dem Chinamens gonna take over the world...
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    China-India border spat casts shadow ahead of BRICS summit
    August 2, 2017 - China is taking an increasingly tough line on a border row with India amid a rising crescendo of nationalism in state media, and President Xi Jinping looks set for an awkward encounter with Prime Minister Narendra Modi at a multilateral summit next month.
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    30 Jul 2017 | China's president Xi Jinping emphasized the combat readiness of the People's Liberation Army, long criticized as corrupt.
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    This American says let China have it. Not our problem, not our fight.

    Maybe the Indians can go to the UN and let them handle it. Without American troops of course.
     
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    Grandpa says, "Dat's wrong. If China can take over the world, North Korea can take over China too." :oldman:
     
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    Instead of going to the UN, the Indians should go to North Korea to learn the secret of leading China by the leash.
     
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    It won't come as a surprise that Xi knows nothing of Kim Jong-Un's bragging that North Korea is a "military power of the East that cannot be touched by even the strongest enemy". If the "strongest enemy", presumably the US, can't do anything to North Korea; neither can China. So which country is the true "military power of the East"?

    The "Great Wall of Media Censorship" keeps not only the people but the government of China out of touch with reality.
     
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    You could at least not restrict weapons supply . America has refused to supply armed drones to India, for which India is ready to pay the market price. All this for not altering the power balance with Pakistan, which returns American favours by harbouring the likes of bin Laden.
     
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    Granny says dem Chinamens is hackin' Vietnam's computers...
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    Chinese cyberspies broaden attacks in Vietnam: firm
    Fri, Sep 01, 2017 - Cyberspies working for or on behalf of the Chinese government have broadened attacks against official and corporate targets in Vietnam at a time of raised tension over the South China Sea, cybersecurity company FireEye said.
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    Sat, Sep 02, 2017 - The Supreme Court yesterday upheld a ruling sentencing retired major general Hou Shih-cheng (侯石城) to eight months in prison for trying to recruit military officials to develop a spy network for China. Hou was a commander in the Republic of China (ROC) Army, served as a section chief at the Office of the General Staff and held various posts in the army.
     
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    Grandpa says: "Some years down the road after the Sino-North Korean border war, my beloved Granny will surely say China is hacking North Korea's computers..." :oldman:
     
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    It is a big question why the Chinese military chose to "steal data" about the weather from Australia's Bureau of Meteorology when they could steal more valuable and useful data from the Ministry of Defence or other government organisations. If such an allegation is true, it shows how dumb the military and civilian leaders of China are. No wonder all the while they are in the dark (as claimed by them) about North Korea's nuclear weapons programme. :sleeping:
     
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    "The bureau is considered a critical national resource, and another state would place a high value on its intellectual property and scientific research."
     

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